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I have no problem with that. What is currently the rights of legal marriage could be transferred to what we'll call 'civil unions', religious 'marriages' could then be performed at the discretion of the religious authorities. As for various proposed gay marriage ammendments not being too...

hahahahaha It's like white people that fight for black "rights".

You said yourself: If you are offended, you offended yourself. Yes I have. Sorry for no separate thread, but while I'll conceed perhaps the 'majority' of your faith comes from that belief, you have also demonstrated two other examples in your arguments. Then for some reason you switched...

That works also. Do you think God would be happy that a significant reason for your belief in him is fear of hell? If God doesn't exist then I imagine the views you've expressed towards some homosexual issues would change. Of course, when you die you won't care but it's affecting you now. I...

People still use that line? What proof do you have that is greater than proof I could dig up for the existance of leper gnomes? *reads homosexuals in australia thread* No, but if someone stole from you and you didn't notice you wouldn't care either. If God (as you imagine him, I'm sure)...

Well I don't really think I need to define God. Others whom come up with me and talk about the existance of God may have their opinion on what God means and I'll try to ascertain that to the best of my ability, if God is something that by their definition I find we would not be able to proove...

As is everything if we're going to allow for the possibility of such supernatural things. Can't we replace God with any other mythical figure and come up with a statement with the same level of merit? Well taking that argument further there's basically no point to having any discussion about...

I wasn't doubting that you do... You said that you "don't need to justify your beliefs" (essentially) - What you quoted before was my retort - Basically that you do need to justify your beliefs (at least to yourself).

I think you do need evidence/logic to back up your own beliefs, even if you're not going to justify them to others you still will have to justify them to yourself. Sorry mate what's this in reply to?

So there's no need to justify your moral stance on anything in your opinion? While debates regarding morals are generally unsuccessful at swaying either side, I would argue that people's morals can be changed over time through argument, particularily if we find a basis which we can work with...

Sex before marriage? Er yes... I'm aware of that. If you wanna have a good discussion, I think you could help by quoting some of what I've said and then responding to it? The quote tags are [ quote ][ /quote ] without the spaces :)

Homosexuality in its self? As in "Is homosexuality a good thing?"

HD Average in Law? I'd like to meet these gods amongst men.

Oh ok. Can you point out which philosopher suggested that the hierarchy of beings should be based off of the ability to "nourish itself, grow and reproduce" ? I'd be quite interested in his justification because it really does seem rather stupid. Personally I still believe you've just made this...

Hmm an important caveat to this thinking is that (at least imo) collective bargaining increases the bargaining power of unions, directly, not workers. Sometimes you need an individual contract specialised for the specific work you are doing. For example, Emergency maintenance work - This is...

....What? First of all, humans are animals. Secondly, by what you've said wouldn't that make sex/eating/sleeping repugnant as we're not over-riding our 'instinctive behaviours'. Homosexuals are capable of reproducing, many of them also do, you only need to have sex with someone of the...

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Bshoc, there is no "scientifically correct" way to go about doing things, those are moral decisions which science may merely help to aid. Science isn't good or evil, it's just how we go about discovering how things work, it's value-judgement neutral with no morals. For example take eugenics...

I like girls.

I don't really hear too many homosexuals complaining. Some may wish they are not homosexual sometimes, however as far as I can ascertain the majority like being homosexuals.