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WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?! Seriously. Fuck off. Yeah, I have an American flag in my sig and its because America is great. no shit its not without its problems but that's not what we're discussing.
 

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So i'm guessing you guys have NEVER complained about america?? EVER???


Whats the number of americans with no healthcare???

How much of all wealth do the richest 10% of americans own??

On average how much less do american women earn compared to men??

How many americans live in poverty??


(lol i got those questions from a LESS than reputable source)
A more important question:
How much do I care?!

Guess the answer.
I dare you.
 

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Im surprised it took the US as long as it did to sniper the cunts holding that captain?

Obvs it was feasible and easy to do. Why try and negotiate it? More patrols in the area. Helicopter gunship the fuck out of pirate vessels. Problem solved. Even dumb shit somali (obvs not as dumb as the internation community as a whole lol) wont continue doing it if enough of them get blown out of the water no questions asked.
the boat was sealed from the top not so easy to sniper. If America cant take these guys out, how do the expect to fight in iraq/Afghanistan.
 

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Im surprised it took the US as long as it did to sniper the cunts holding that captain?

Obvs it was feasible and easy to do. Why try and negotiate it? More patrols in the area. Helicopter gunship the fuck out of pirate vessels. Problem solved. Even dumb shit somali (obvs not as dumb as the internation community as a whole lol) wont continue doing it if enough of them get blown out of the water no questions asked.

Maybe killing then was the last option. also they didn't have a clear shot of all three pirates. If they kill only one or two the hostage would have been killed.
 

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I imagine shooting at a boat, from a boat isn't the easiest thing to do either, tbh.
 

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I love how after the pirates were killed, their buddies in Somalia were indignant that such a thing could possibly happen. Seriously you are bloody armed pirates hi-jacking food-aid ships what do you expect to happen? Funniest thing they are now threatening the USA as if they should be scared of pirates.

All the nations involved should really organise and do a massive crack down on these SOBs
 

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Seriously that is such a stupid argument though. We had a whole massive thread about it, and I'm not going to get into it again, since arming regular citizens is a lot different from merchant vessels in international waters. All I'll point out is that Switzerland has practically universal gun ownership.
All the greatest nations of the world have high gun ownership. The US, Switzerland, Finland, Australia, Germany, France, Canada, Sweden, Austria, New zealand, Iraq, Yemen

So i'm guessing you guys have NEVER complained about america?? EVER???


Whats the number of americans with no healthcare???

How much of all wealth do the richest 10% of americans own??

On average how much less do american women earn compared to men??

How many americans live in poverty??


(lol i got those questions from a LESS than reputable source)
No i have never complained about america.

Whats the number of americans without healthcare compared to the rest of the world?

How much of all wealth do the poorest 90% of americans own?

On average how much more equal are women compared to men in the US than the rest of the world?

How many americans live in poverty compared to the global average?

You're stupid.

the boat was sealed from the top not so easy to sniper. If America cant take these guys out, how do the expect to fight in iraq/Afghanistan.
It was open wasnt it? They only shot the guys cos they were threatening to shoot the captain. If they were able to do that then they must have been in sight the whole time. Therefore why wouldnt you just snipe them when you got the first chance? idk internation relations etc

Maybe killing then was the last option. also they didn't have a clear shot of all three pirates. If they kill only one or two the hostage would have been killed.
Probably didnt want to look like they were murdering pirates wantonly now (dont know why not). Im sure if the navy seals were allowed to sort it out their own way the pirates would be pretty deal pretty easy

I imagine shooting at a boat, from a boat isn't the easiest thing to do either, tbh.
Eh they said it was fairly easy. SEAL snipers 30m away. They could have done it earlier i assume because they only did it once his life was in danger after Mr obama said they could.
 
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I love how after the pirates were killed, their buddies in Somalia were indignant that such a thing could possibly happen. Seriously you are bloody armed pirates hi-jacking food-aid ships what do you expect to happen? Funniest thing they are now threatening the USA as if they should be scared of pirates.

All the nations involved should really organise and do a massive crack down on these SOBs

Everyone should be wary of these muslim pirate monkeys, the crew aren't allowed to carry guns on board and look how many ships have been hijacked, and how many millions of dollars have been handed over already.

You can't just kill every pirate (think of it like a wasps nest), the amount of water they need to patrol is huge and it costs a lot of money to have gunships and helicopters out there.
 
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Everyone should be wary of these muslim pirate monkeys, the crew aren't allowed to carry guns on board and look how many ships have been hijacked, and how many millions of dollars have been handed over already.

You can't just kill every pirate (think of it like a wasps nest), the amount of water they need to patrol is huge and it costs a lot of money to have gunships and helicopters out there.
It also costs a lot of money to hand over ransoms and depoloy negotiation teams everytime soneone is taken hostage
 

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I'm surprised we haven't heard news of mercenary and private security companies cashing in on the situation. You'd think that they'd be making it big on companies hiring a team for a few thousand dollars to accompany the ship with concealed weapons.
 

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I'm surprised we haven't heard news of mercenary and private security companies cashing in on the situation. You'd think that they'd be making it big on companies hiring a team for a few thousand dollars to accompany the ship with concealed weapons.
The problem is that merchant ships arent supposed to have any arms at all, not even pistols or whatever, and most nations won't let armed ships into their harbours. If the UN got off its ass and made it legal for ship crews to carry rifles or something this wouldn't be much of a problem at all.
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I thought of that too, been had monies doing that for sure

Fuck you haters keep your ferraris
I'm on a boat motherfucker, sniping somalis
 
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The problem is that merchant ships arent supposed to have any arms at all, not even pistols or whatever, and most nations won't let armed ships into their harbours. If the UN got off its ass and made it legal for ship crews to carry rifles or something this wouldn't be much of a problem at all.
this.
 

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Yeah, well cargo ships these days are massive motherfuckers, so it's not exactly hard to hide a weapon or two on board. And if you charged, say, $1,000 per mercenary per day, for the length of trip, the mercenaries would be making a shit-load of money and the shipping company would still be avoiding multi-million dollar pay outs.
 

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see the sixty minute report on these pirates?
They're pretty hospitable, they are only pissed about
foreign ships taking/reducing their livestocks (fish etc). Most
are fishermen and dont even wanna be pirates but have too, to
earn some form of income.
 

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I'm surprised we haven't heard news of mercenary and private security companies cashing in on the situation. You'd think that they'd be making it big on companies hiring a team for a few thousand dollars to accompany the ship with concealed weapons.
I thought they were and they got banned?

Werent those cunts who were in iraq also being hired to fuck up pirates?

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forming their own navy lol to fight pirates

Pay some of the pirates to hunt down and kill the other pirates.

To me this makes sense.
Then kill the pirates that you hired?
 
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I thought they were and they got banned?

Werent those cunts who were in iraq also being hired to fuck up pirates?

Edit: blackwater

forming their own navy lol to fight pirates
I haven't heard of anything like this.
Hmmm... That may be why piracy rates have suddenly risen in the past two years though. Besides the complete breakdown of Somali society, that is.

Then kill the pirates that you hired?
No, then you divide up the pirates you hired and get them to kill each other, and then divide up the winning group etc etc and so forth until you only have one pirate left then you give him a nice home in American suburbia and the problem is solved.
 

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