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macca1819

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I hate hearing people who live here say "I'm Lebanese", or "I'm Chinese" or whatever. Why come to this country unless you're going to be true blue?

I mean, my ancestry is Scottish, Welsh, Irish and German, but I am Australian. I am proud to be Australian, and if you're going to live here, you should be too.

If not, piss off back to your own country.

This is why I love Pauline Hanson. She is totally right.
 
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lol, maybe because the living conditions here are a million times better than wherever they initially came from?
And maybe they like their own culture and/or dislike the Australian culture and lifestyle or find it difficult to assimilate.
So they improve their living conditions while retaining the culture and lifestyle they are used to.
 

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lol, maybe because the living conditions here are a million times better than wherever they initially came from?
And maybe they like their own culture and/or dislike the Australian culture and lifestyle or find it difficult to assimilate.
So they improve their living conditions while retaining the culture and lifestyle they are used to.
It's really not that hard. If they're going to reap the benefits of this beautiful country, they should be patriotic, and assimilate.

I think we shouldn't be allowing any Muslims to come here. They're nothing but a disease.
 

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If you moved to China, would you immediately say; "I'm proud to be Chinese" and renounce your Australian background?
If I moved there permanently, then yes, of course. Why wouldn't I? Why would I leave Australia, and go to china, yet still call myself Australian. I'd be no good to Australia or china in that case.
 

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Do you really think culture is something you choose arbitrarily? Where are they meant to develop these "true blue" attributes?

I'm of similar descent to you (Irish, about 6 generations ago; German, about 4 generations ago) but realise that it took many decades for the Irish to console their gripes with the British centric administration and culture of early Australia.

Without the benefit of time to adjust, how can you expect migrants to fit in automatically. Consider the differences between international Asian students, and local Asian students who were born here. The contrast is huge! If you know any 2nd gen Asian migrants, consider them as well... they are as Australian as everyone else and the only reason they don't announce themselves as Aussie is because people like you wouldn't accept their word (as they still aren't white)
 

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Do you really think culture is something you choose arbitrarily? Where are they meant to develop these "true blue" attributes?

I'm of similar descent to you (Irish, about 6 generations ago; German, about 4 generations ago) but realise that it took many decades for the Irish to console their gripes with the British centric administration and culture of early Australia.

Without the benefit of time to adjust, how can you expect migrants to fit in automatically. Consider the differences between international Asian students, and local Asian students who were born here. The contrast is huge! If you know any 2nd gen Asian migrants, consider them as well... they are as Australian as everyone else and the only reason they don't announce themselves as Aussie is because people like you wouldn't accept their word (as they still aren't white)
My point is that many come here, and just form ghettos. They don't bother to learn English, or assimilate into Australian culture. They still call themselves the nationality of the country from which they came.

I think it's the same regardless of which country. Like if an Irish person came here, I'd expect them to call themselves Australian.
 

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It's really not that hard. If they're going to reap the benefits of this beautiful country, they should be patriotic, and assimilate.

I think we shouldn't be allowing any Muslims to come here. They're nothing but a disease.
oh so thats how u roll?

i see.
 

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What is Australian culture?

In fact, fuck Australian culture, even if you can define it.

Maybe elements of their culture are better anyway.

Our culture is not static anyway.

Why should they have to learn English. If they want to live in their own communities and speak their language what do you care. Lots of countries have different language communities within them and get along just fine. It is only because English speakers speak the world's most dominant language, that we have the arrogance to expect that everyone else should speak it.
Why can't they assimilate? Of course they should learn English. That is the language of this country now.

Have you seen some of thos Middle Eastern Muslim families? Most of them are poor, yet have 10 kids, because they want to breed like flies and take over this country. they're a pest, and Whitlams should have never let them come here.

Anyway, I'm off for today. Peace to all true Aussies on here.
 

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My point is that many come here, and just form ghettos. They don't bother to learn English, or assimilate into Australian culture. They still call themselves the nationality of the country from which they came.

I think it's the same regardless of which country. Like if an Irish person came here, I'd expect them to call themselves Australian.
There is no doubt that what you have said is true, in terms of the formation of "ghettos." But I still think you are being unreasonable in expecting anything different. They have made the huge step of discarding their old lives; you can surely understand the desire to hang on to some familiar remnants of culture as they start again?

Why did you make this thread anyway? What do you think the solution should be?

And btw I can absolutely assure you that your ancestors most certainly did not see themselves as anything but Irish when they arrived here. They formed "ghettos" in areas like the Hunter Valley, and kept to themselves with a distinct distaste for everyone else. Even many generations later, my mum still gets really pissed off when people refer to white Australians as "anglo" because a lot of newcomers to this country know nothing of Irish-British tensions. When she was little, she was encouraged to do Irish dancing, and be a good Catholic. I'm sure it was similar with your family. But I'm sure you don't see this in the same negative light.
 

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If you moved to China, would you immediately say; "I'm proud to be Chinese" and renounce your Australian background?
You would only move to China if you had something against Australia, or if you had more of an interest in China than Australia (Business does not count). In either case, you wouldn't want to think of yourself of Australian when you could be what you want - Chinese.

People who move here WANT to be Australian, however they fail to assimilate to their surrounding, dominant culture? I thought they wanted to be Australian...
I mean, I know plenty of people who did assimilate, and they're doing fine in the community and they love their life / being australian.

You've also got my favorite... "We'll move to Australia because it's a better life, but we don't want you marrying any Australians or associating with them."
Well... the topic that could create... (By the way, that's quoted from a Chinese citizen who moved to Australia... it's hat he told his children. That, and "Australians are barbarians")

Do you really think culture is something you choose arbitrarily? Where are they meant to develop these "true blue" attributes?
Their surroundings.
They can pick it up at work, school, all that.
I don't mind keeping a bit of culture, it makes for some good restraunts, however I think that people should at least shower and learn English.

Without the benefit of time to adjust, how can you expect migrants to fit in automatically. Consider the differences between international Asian students, and local Asian students who were born here. The contrast is huge! If you know any 2nd gen Asian migrants, consider them as well... they are as Australian as everyone else and the only reason they don't announce themselves as Aussie is because people like you wouldn't accept their word (as they still aren't white)
As you've said, they've had more time to assimilate.
Of course, time's what they need, and some people don't have the time. But you've got the Australian-born Austalian-Lebonese boys who praise their heritage like it's all that matters to them, disregard Australia as their home, all when they haven't stepped foot in "their country". THAT's what I see as wrong.

You are an imbecile. You are no good to anyone, bogan.
You didn't do yourself much justice there.

What is Australian culture?

In fact, fuck Australian culture, even if you can define it.

Maybe elements of their culture are better anyway.

Our culture is not static anyway.

Why should they have to learn English. If they want to live in their own communities and speak their language what do you care. Lots of countries have different language communities within them and get along just fine. It is only because English speakers speak the world's most dominant language, that we have the arrogance to expect that everyone else should speak it.
You're wrong. Completely wrong.
Why should they speak English? Use your head and think for yourself, "Why should someone come to a English-speaking country and learn English..."
This is an English speaking country, if you're going to move to here, you shoud at least be able to speak the dominant language of the country. Not only does this break down communication barrier and make everyday life easier, it reduces the amount of misunderstandings that take place because people fail to learn English.

"Fuck Australian culture"?
You're a joke.

there are abo's here?
They belong here just as much as white-man.

As a note, I go to a multicultural school. We have students over here from other countries, and cannot tell them apart. They are quite settled into Australia culture, are living an excellent, care-free life and are doing great in their studies. They speak fluent English and I hang out with them whenever's possible.

On top of that, I have friends who are Mauritian (excuse the spelling if it's incorrect), Indian, Sudanese, Lebonese, Maltese, fuck, half the world... I love them all.
I'm not racist, I hate personal aspects of people regardless of their culture.
 

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Why do people come here and not want to be Australian?

The Japanese came here once, and they did not want to be Australian. Now put two and two together retard.

Also, I am Lebanese.
 

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fuck im having second thoughts about going to sydney

isnt there asians and lebos everywhere?

what if they try and talk to me in the gook talk

fucken spicks

any of those zipperhead fucks try anything and it will be like korea 2.0
 
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