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Aliens vs Predator. Highly anticipated. Completly banned! (1 Viewer)

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I don't know who knows, but AvP the new video game, one of the most highest profile games to be soon released, has been officially BANNED for sale in Australia, for being too violent. The same thing happened to Left 4 Dead 2, and they sliced the game up and released a half-arsed version of the game, to very poor reviews, while the complete version scored a perfect 10/10. So the Man Upstairs has now decided what we can and what we can't do or see. Kids as old as 10 can see Bruno in all it's uncut glory (cough cough), but AvP crossed some sort of line. This country is becoming more and more like a Big Brother state, communist if you will. We're having decisions made for us. This will cause the same uproar as did L4D2. :angry:
 

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I don't know who knows, but AvP the new video game, one of the most highest profile games to be soon released, has been officially BANNED for sale in Australia, for being too violent. The same thing happened to Left 4 Dead 2, and they sliced the game up and released a half-arsed version of the game, to very poor reviews, while the complete version scored a perfect 10/10. So the Man Upstairs has now decided what we can and what we can't do or see. Kids as old as 10 can see Bruno in all it's uncut glory (cough cough), but AvP crossed some sort of line. This country is becoming more and more like a Big Brother state, communist if you will. We're having decisions made for us. This will cause the same uproar as did L4D2. :angry:
Told someone this at ItLOG. Lets just say the all nighter was not fun at all.
 
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Couldnt give a fuck about AvP (may after I see a vid or hear something about it) however, these laws are insanely ridiculous, I completely agree with the Big Brother state comment. If the faggots in power really must do something, just make an 18+ restriction and it's all good, kk, yep yep?
 
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Looks good and quite similar to l4d, I dont understand why all of a sudden 'violent' games are an issue, we've had them for ages, it's not as if the violence is really any different. So yes, they are backward, poopfaced cunts.
 

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Kids as old as 10 can see Bruno in all it's uncut glory (cough cough), but AvP crossed some sort of line.
Bruno was originally rated R18+ in Australia. The Australian cinema version was edited, some footage was cut, to make it MA15+. I gather the DVD version is R18+.

In either case, viewing is restricted for someone aged 10.
 

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Bruno was originally rated R18+ in Australia. The Australian cinema version was edited, some footage was cut, to make it MA15+. I gather the DVD version is R18+.

In either case, viewing is restricted for someone aged 10.
It is.


But shit kids can still can get access to the parents secret place.


Can we organise a rally or something in SA?
 

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Bruno was originally rated R18+ in Australia. The Australian cinema version was edited, some footage was cut, to make it MA15+. I gather the DVD version is R18+.

In either case, viewing is restricted for someone aged 10.
Right, but kiddies could easily get their little hands on the Unrated DVD/Blu Ray version, for Christmas. I work in retail, and moms and dads are buying Bruno, but they want the Uncut R+18 version, because that's what their 11 year old son/daughter wants on their wish list, as well as a Bumblebee action figure/Bratz doll. Kiddies also want GTA4, MW2 and L4D2, video game CLEARLY not designed with very young children in mind. When they unwrap the games on Christmas and play it on their parents new 55' inch LED television, (cough cough NO RUSSIAN on MW2) the parents are going to be like "WHATDAAAHHFUCCKKK!" why would they release such a violent thing for children?!. Same with Bruno, when they invite Aunty May, Uncle Joe and Grandma Loretta over for Christmas night movies (Swinging penis scene much) and scream bloody murder. Soon enough, like Rudd tried, the net will be censored.
 

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rah rah michael atkinson rah rah

Don't really care about AvP but gotta hate that ban crap
 

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Yeah, but kids could just as easily get their hands on the currently banned AvP by torrenting it, or importing it.

Restriction for those aged under 10s, ability to access this material, is exactly the same for Bruno or AvP.

All you've got reason to complain about is the legislative status, which I agree is bullshit. Obviously over 18's should have the option to access this material from a domestic retailer, with appropriate classification.
 
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yeah, but kids could just as easily get their hands on the currently banned avp by torrenting it, or importing it.

Restriction for those aged under 10s, ability to access this material, is exactly the same for bruno or avp.

All you've got reason to complain about is the legislative status, which i agree is bullshit. Obviously over 18's should have the option to access this material from a domestic retailer, with appropriate classification.
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"You may be aware that there was talk of the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General releasing a discussion paper on [the introduction of an R18+ classification for games]. I have been awaiting the release of this paper… Alas, the paper has not yet been released and, despite my inquiring, I do not know when it will be available. I want the discussion paper released as soon as possible and have done nothing to impede its release."
"Although some members are advocates of this classification, I believe other Attorneys-General, like me, reject it. Other Attorneys-General who are opposed to introducing an R18+ classification for computer games are content to let me be the lightening (sic) rod for the gamers."
"I am well aware that many game players are adults… However, it is important you do not confuse the classification rating of a game with the game’s sophistication, or the challenge or interest to the player… It does not follow that a game is more interesting to an adult simply because it contains extreme violence, explicit sexual material or highly offensive language. Indeed, with all the effort and money that goes into game development, coupled with the effects and graphics now available, there is no need to introduce these extreme elements. I am bafffled and worried about why proponents of R18+ games are putting up their hands and saying ‘Give us more cruel sex and extreme violence!’"
"‘Interactive Australia 2007′, a report prepared by Bond University for the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia, surveyed 1,606 Australian households randomly. The report found “79% of Australian households have a device for computer and video games”. Further, 62% of Australians in these gaming households “say the classification of a game has no influence on their buying decision”.
Given this data, I cannot fathom what State-enforced safeguards could exist to prevent R18+ games being bought by households with children and how children can be stopped from using these games once the games are in the home. If adult gamers are so keen to have R18+ games, I expect children would be just as keen.
Classification of electronic games is very different from the classification of film. In cinemas, the age of movie-goers can be regulated… Rising game and console sales make it clear that this is a growing area that needs careful regulation, even more so than cinemas and private D.V.D. hire and purchase. Access to electronic games, once in the home, cannot be policed and therefore the games are easily accesible to children."
"What the present law does is keep the most extreme material off the shelves. It is true that this restricts adult liberty to a small degree, however, I am prepared to accept this infringement in the circumstances."
"I am concerned about the level of violence in society and the widespread acceptance of simulated violence as a form of entertainment. I am particularly concerned about the impact of this extreme content on children and vulnerable adults.
I believe the repeated act of killing a computer-generated person or creature desensitises them to violence. To my mind, a child being able to watch depraved sex and extreme violence in a movie is damaging to the child, but the child’s participating (sic) in depraved sex and extreme violence in a computer game is worse."
"Game-houses are always free to adapt games that would otherwise be R.C. [Refused Classification] and modify the game content to be in line with the M.A.15+ classification… I do not accept that this destroys the artistic integrity of the game – excusing gore and depraved sex as art is an immature argument."
"Contrarily, it has been suggested that games that would otherwise be classified R18+ are instead slipping through as M.A.15+ and becoming accessible to children. This argument does not support an R18+ classification for games. There may be games that some people consider too violent for the M.A.15+ classification but the solution is not to create a classification that would permit even more violent games in Australia. M.A.15+ games are restricted to children over 15 and if younger children access these games it further justifies complete protection from R18+ games. It is up to parents and responsible adults to ensure a game is appropriate for a minor whatever age he or she is. It is up to members of the Classification Board to apply the Guidelines correctly and not to try to defeat the Guidelines because they disagree with the outcome of the actions of elected officials in a democratic rule-of-law society."
The above is some selected extracts from a response from Michael Atkinson to a letter from our fellow gamers at Kotaku.
SAUCE: A Letter From Michael Atkinson | Kotaku Australia
SAUCE (scanned response): R18-Michael Atkinson.pdf

There are many holes in his argument. Have fun.

"I understand the Wii console has been phenomenally successful for Nintendo and that system provides many games to challenge and develop skill, physically and intellectually, without depraved sex, gore and cruelty."
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
WTF is wrong with this guy, mabye a gamer should have a say in this, true gamers really dont play Wii.
 
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Wii is the only console I play pretty much cos it's interactive and unique and shit (and can just use emulators for most console games), everything else is win for comp. But I play comp 99.9% of time anyway so yeh. Anyway this atkinscunt better get burried soon cos he sounds like a real backwards fuckstick.
 
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