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fuck i am sick to death of minor parties/independants.

hung parliament is the worst thing to ever happen to this country. look at all the big policies on the table at the moment:

pokies reform - pushed to forefront by 1 independent
carbon tax - wouldn't be an issue at the moment if either of the parties had a solid majority

so essentially the shitty few percent of our electorate made up of 30 year old uni students, doll bludgers and neo nazi greenies have forced the other 97% who voted for one of the major parties to rule the country to have their socialist/nanny-state policies shoved down our throat.

i for one hope bob brown chokes on some tofu and that the independents watch the wrath of their electorates cause an almighty shit storm at the next election.


p.s how god damned retarded are those voters in qld who voted for katter. good job putting a guy who should be under sedation at a mental clinic as your member for parliament.
 

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What do you suggest to replace it them?

Currently the parliament is fucked with the hung parliament.
 

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Both majority governments of Howard and Rudd were seeking to implement prices on Carbon, and the Abbott opposition is seeking to push down carbon with tax payer money as well.
 

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Both majority governments of Howard and Rudd were seeking to implement prices on Carbon, and the Abbott opposition is seeking to push down carbon with tax payer money as well.
Both major parties of Australia are pretty much the same. The main difference is Labour supports workers more, Liberal supports businesses
 

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the government just shut down a billion dollar industry and ruined thousands of peoples' lives for literally no reason

world's going nuts
 

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Both majority governments of Howard and Rudd were seeking to implement prices on Carbon, and the Abbott opposition is seeking to push down carbon with tax payer money as well.
true except both parties went to an election with no plans to adopt the policy. my point isn't about the validity of such a carbon price/tax but rather the ruling party being swindled by single members of parliament.
 

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true except both parties went to an election with no plans to adopt the policy. my point isn't about the validity of such a carbon price/tax but rather the ruling party being swindled by single members of parliament.
Fucking greens and independants.

Honestly nothing is going to get done in Australia before another election, because any independant and disagree and such topic will not happen
 

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It would be more the 600,000kg. Stopping live beef trade was the worse idea, it killed a entire industry.
 

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true except both parties went to an election with no plans to adopt the policy. my point isn't about the validity of such a carbon price/tax but rather the ruling party being swindled by single members of parliament.
The Labor party abandoned the policy of carbon pricing for a period of about ten weeks in the past five years, Abbot's taxpayer funded "Direct Action" carbon abaitment plan was taken to the election.
 

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It would be more the 600,000kg. Stopping live beef trade was the worse idea, it killed a entire industry.
I was speaking to a woman who works in cattle farming, she seemed to think that in the industry for years they've wanted to start processing the meat in far north Queensland then export the processed meat. Create heaps of Australian jobs in the top end and give them more control over how their cattle are treated. They need initial investment to get it kick started though and are hoping in the wake of the 4 corners affair they might get a bit of government investment to set up such an industry, far from killing it.
 

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I was speaking to a woman who works in cattle farming, she seemed to think that in the industry for years they've wanted to start processing the meat in far north Queensland then export the processed meat. Create heaps of Australian jobs in the top end and give them more control over how their cattle are treated. They need initial investment to get it kick started though and are hoping in the wake of the 4 corners affair they might get a bit of government investment to set up such an industry, far from killing it.
But that is quite expense to have several operations in Australia.
 

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yeah but that wont work

the reason it was such a big industry is because we could minimise costs by sending the cattle live to indonesia where processing costs are 1/10th of what they are here, hence cheaper beef (still expensive for them though) for the indonesians
 

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