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SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

totally_screwed said:
lmao do you think you're smart or something with ur numbered statements of if and then logic, you're not saying anything profound there you're disregarding the colonial aspect of the situation and the fact, yes fact, that this issue began way before Oct 7 and Palestinians have been victims of generational massacre for a very long time

im not trying to be profound

im trying to make it simple as possible

You clowns say something, I respond to it, then you start talking about a bunch of other stuff and ignore what I wrote

Let me ask for the 15th time: If Hamas values Israeli lives, why did they indiscriminately kill israelis on Oct 7?

It's fine to say they don't value lives and shouldn't have to value them. But if you or whoever is going to claim they value them, this is in clear contradiction with Hamas' actions and words.

SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

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are you joking israel has the name social security number and address of everyone in occupied Palestine stop justifying the killing of civilians, that airstrike that killed the Hamas official was precise and you can't say otherwise, buildings are being blown up left right and centre in Gaza with nothing but families existing in them it's indiscriminate
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I'm not justifying anything, I didn't even say I support Israel doing anything in Gaza. I'm just responding to this nonsense about Israel being able to fight Hamas without killing any civilians.

The assassination of the hamas leader...was an assassination. It was one guy, NOT in a war zone. Not remotely comparable to Gaza.

Gaza has tens of thousands of hamas soldiers completely surrounded by civilians. Israel categorically does not know who is where in gaza right now, and even if they would prefer to kill no gazan civilians, destroying hamas in gaza without killing civilians is literally impossible.

If you want to say they shouldn't risk civilian life to destroy hamas, fine. But saying they could fight hamas without killing civilians is pure fantasy.

synthesisFR · Feb 1, 2024

lolcti said:
bitch go kys idc about u join the idf and go die idc ab this dumb irrelvant zionist centre website bye

i havent read this or the other deleted (i think) thread abt this topic but ive read sylvia say that he is not supporting any side and not a zionist. is he consistent in this claim or clearly showing bias?
just wondering since i dont fully understand what events these ppl r currently talking abt

lolcti · Feb 1, 2024

imagine supporting a genoicide just cause you're islamaphobic.. its not even about being muslim its just basic humanitarian rights when this was happening to Ukraine everyone was supportive but seriously what's wrong with some of you people this genocide is 100x times worse don't even start.

SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

lolcti said:
bitch go kys idc about u join the idf and go die idc ab this dumb irrelvant zionist centre website bye

You accuse me of "attacking" people then you tell me to kill myself. Very nice.

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

lolcti said:
bitch go kys idc about u join the idf and go die idc ab this dumb irrelvant zionist centre website bye

I don't want you getting banned plz
with sylvia it's a 5 min ban but with anyone else it's permanent

SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

lolcti said:
imagine supporting a genoicide just cause you're islamaphobic.. its not even about being muslim its just basic humanitarian rights when this was happening to Ukraine everyone was supportive but seriously what's wrong with some of you people this genocide is 100x times worse don't even start.

when samuel paty was murdered by islamic terrorists, most muslims condoned this. This is 100% about religion. Muslims are not anti-violence or anti-imperialism generally. It's exclusively when they feel that they're the victims.

And calling something genocide 100 times over doesn't make it true

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

synthesisFR said:
i havent read this or the other deleted (i think) thread abt this topic but ive read sylvia say that he is not supporting any side and not a zionist. is he consistent in this claim or clearly showing bias?
just wondering since i dont fully understand what events these ppl r currently talking abt

he is a textbook Zionist

just because he's saying he isn't doesn't mean he has a clear bias towards Israel, and he's openly a hater of arabs and muslims even though once again this war isn't religious it just so happens to be Palestine is majority Muslim

lolcti · Feb 1, 2024

freedom of speech if he can say anything he wants I also can

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

SylviaB said:
when samuel paty was murdered by islamic terrorists, most muslims condoned this

And calling something genocide 100 times over doesn't make it true

it is a genocide not because I'm saying it is, it's because it actually is one

SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

lolcti said:
freedom of speech if he can say anything he wants I also can

I can't say anything I want, but nothing I've said in this thread has been comparable to telling people to kill themselves or go die

lolcti · Feb 1, 2024

SylviaB said:
I can't say anything I want, but nothing I've said in this thread has been comparable to telling people to kill themselves or go die

u support the murder of 30,000 people ALL innocent, I can't stand you ok??

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

are you joking israel has the name social security number and address of everyone in occupied Palestine stop justifying the killing of civilians, that airstrike that killed the Hamas official was precise and you can't say otherwise, buildings are being blown up left right and centre in Gaza with nothing but families existing in them it's indiscriminate
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I'm not justifying anything, I didn't even say I support Israel doing anything in Gaza. I'm just responding to this nonsense about Israel being able to fight Hamas without killing any civilians.

The assassination of the hamas leader...was an assassination. It was one guy, NOT in a war zone. Not remotely comparable to Gaza.

Gaza has tens of thousands of hamas soldiers completely surrounded by civilians. Israel categorically does not know who is where in gaza right now, and even if they would prefer to kill no gazan civilians, destroying hamas in gaza without killing civilians is literally impossible.

If you want to say they shouldn't risk civilian life to destroy hamas, fine. But saying they could fight hamas without killing civilians is pure fantasy.
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so you're saying the 40,000+ dead is all okay because a handful of Hamas were in that crowd? and that it's okay for Israel to keep going until all of "Hamas" is eradicated, however and whenever that is, even if every last Palestinian has to die

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

whys the text posting like that

SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

lolcti said:
u support the murder of 30,000 people ALL innocent, I can't stand you ok??

1. It's funny how you people cry about israel lying about October 7 deaths and then you give a total made up number (and even the "real" number is unverified and is just what hamas is reporting)

2. I never said I support anything Israel is doing actually

lolcti · Feb 1, 2024

SylviaB said:
1. It's funny how you people cry about israel lying about October 7 deaths and then you give a total made up number (and even the "real" number is unverified and is just what hamas is reporting)

2. I never said I support anything Israel is doing actually

woah woah there is lists of names, images, and all the proof you need + I bet its way more than that they can't confirm every single death

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

it's not one or two lives it's tens of thousands, Israel turned residential Gaza into a warzone even though combat could have been restricted to an area where there are no or less civilians, they've told Gazans to evacuate to safe zones since the beginning but either on the way to safe zones or at the safe zones they were, and still are being killed

totally_screwed · Feb 1, 2024

SylviaB said:
1. It's funny how you people cry about israel lying about October 7 deaths and then you give a total made up number (and even the "real" number is unverified and is just what hamas is reporting)

2. I never said I support anything Israel is doing actually

it's not a made up number it's from an official registry

SylviaB · Feb 1, 2024

totally_screwed said:
so you're saying the 40,000+ dead is all okay because a handful of Hamas were in that crowd? and that it's okay for Israel to keep going until all of "Hamas" is eradicated, however and whenever that is, even if every last Palestinian has to die

This is why I have to break down my arguments to numbered points, because you simply struggle to understand basic arguments.

I literally said "If you want to say they shouldn't risk civilian life to destroy hamas, fine. But saying they could fight hamas without killing civilians is pure fantasy."

My point was exclusively responding to your claim that Isael could destroy hamas without killing civilians.

Nowhere in any of my posts did I say that I think Israel SHOULD destroy hamas even if it gazan civilians die.

I was strictly responding to your very specific claim that they could destroy hamas without killing civilians.

nsw..wollongong · Feb 1, 2024

SylviaB said:
1. It's funny how you people cry about israel lying about October 7 deaths and then you give a total made up number (and even the "real" number is unverified and is just what hamas is reporting)

no. number of casualties have been verified by the Israeli health department itself and the UNRWA (conveniently had their funds "paused")

SylviaB said:
2. I never said I support anything Israel is doing actually

no u rlly said that the Palestinians had it coming after what happened on oct 7, then retaliate as soon as i say that years of oppression should've been a sign to the idf that SOMEONE was going to hit back at some point

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