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    Getting into medicine without UCAT

    Many medical schools are only open to school leavers (ie applying as a high school student). Once you start uni, you're mixed in with the non school leavers so it's more competitive if you want to gain entry into the undergrad route. Perhaps you're right. In my experience with a small cohort of...
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    Getting into medicine without UCAT

    Yea and also to address the "preconceived judgement that people who wish to do medicine only have a passion for health or are "all in", but I think people can have multiple paths that they may be interested in". I really don't think it's a preconceived judgement. This is reflected in the people...
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    Getting into medicine without UCAT

    My main point is that if OP wants to get into medicine, they're gonna need to work hard for it and apply themselves to the process - in the same way your daughter put in the necessary effort to get into medicine. I don't think it's possible to put the necessary effort if half the effort is spent...
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    Getting into medicine without UCAT

    I agree with your points however my point lies more with the idea that you shouldn't treat medicine as something you can walk into without putting a decent amount of effort. Like I said nobody gets into medicine by accident. As I'm sure your daughter can relate, the entry process is tough. It...
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    Getting into medicine without UCAT

    Good plan. I will say one thing though- nobody gets into medicine by mistake or by accident. Adopt the mindset next year that medicine is your ultimate dream goal and that you don't see yourself becoming anything except a doctor and that you will do everything you can to get on. Regardless of...
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    Getting into medicine without UCAT

    Keep in mind it's harder to score a high GPA in law, so take that into consideration because a high GPA (regardless of which degree, which uni you studied at) is a requirement to get into medicine. I have heard from my law colleagues that a high GPA is much harder to obtain in law compared to...
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    Medicine 😎

    Hi guys, interesting thread. I thought I should chime in to say that it is most certainly possible to enter into medicine from a disadvantaged school, without being from a rural background. Some degrees such as the JMP do not require an extremely high ATAR and its UCAT requirements are probably...
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    bad internal ranks, good hsc results?

    I was first in all my subjects. For top 10 I think 90-95 is a fairly realistic ATAR goal? I think 99 might be a difficult unless you REALLY ace your externals. You can also ask past years and check out what they got. Pretty typical for a 300 ranked school to get 1x 99, 1x 98 and the rest...
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    Nursing to Medicine

    I think it would be a great idea. In addition to everything mentioned above, the skills you learn as a nurse would supplement the work as a doctor quite nicely, especially the clinical side of things. Also find that doctors who were nurses before they started medicine have really good...
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    Ahmad Shah Style-Based Notes, Revised, Edited, Perfected.

    Nice thread man. Throwback to when I did my HSC in 2014, picking up HSC tips and tricks from posts like this and likewise passing those on to those in the years after mine. 😄
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    Is it true that your rank in a subject determines your exam mark?

    Not exam mark, but assessment mark (HSC = exam mark (from actual HSC exam) + assessment mark (from your rank in school). Somewhat accurate. If you guys did get 93 94 95 (which is quite close), it sort of depends on how the rest of the class did. In your exam, I'd expect 1st to get 97, 2nd...
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    Will I be able to get into these schools?

    Teachers have changed these 5 years (as have the syllabus) so really can't say! I think regardless of what school you go to, you should be learning the content independently - it will be very hard to do well if you just relied on your school teachers. Also, since medicine is what you are aiming...
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    Will I be able to get into these schools?

    Have a weird feeling you went to my high school (does Splatt ring a bell?). From observation, the top few or so of the mainstream classes perform equal to the selectives (in atar and otherwise). You probably won't see many loud/distracting students in your Y11/12 classes since they tend to...
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    Plan to take it easy until uni, then work hard to become a Dr - is it flawed?

    There is no 'best at medical school' or 'top 20%'. The top student is just as good as the bottom student who just passed. Esp true given some unis push out med students with just pass or fail on their academic transcript. The requirements to enter competitive specialties are more to do with...
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    Plan to take it easy until uni, then work hard to become a Dr - is it flawed?

    Just going to dispel this myth as someone who actually studies medicine - this is not true. Most people get through. The faculty supports students very well and there is lots of support from other students. The people who fail medicine (ie only around 5%) are typically those who never wanted to...
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    Plan to take it easy until uni, then work hard to become a Dr - is it flawed?

    I actually think someone with 130 IQ who works hard still probably only has <10-20% chance of getting into undergrad medicine. Avg IQ of med hopefuls is higher than the avg population and admission rate is only like 5%.. (of UCAT candidates). Back when there was no UMAT/interview, the flat atar...
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    Plan to take it easy until uni, then work hard to become a Dr - is it flawed?

    I think it's fair if you think you will definitely get in, but reality is that most people don't. It is easy to talk to doctors and all those who have succeeded, but for each doctor who has succeeded there are probably 10 out there who have failed and given up or are still trying the GAMSAT (and...
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    Plan to take it easy until uni, then work hard to become a Dr - is it flawed?

    Think your life is yours to live - but just keep in mind that around half the spots are are reserved for high school students (who take the UCAT).- including UNSW. Doing the GAMSAT route does mean you give up these spots and hence lowers your overall chances of even having a shot. HSC defs not...
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