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klaw

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Why do I get 0.99999.... = 1?
Working out:
let x = 0.999999.....
then 10x = 9.99999.....

10x-x=9
.:x=1

Other way:
0.99999....=9/10+9/10²+9/10³+.......+9/10^infinite
= (9/10(1 - 1/10^infinite))/(1-1/10)
=1
 

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switchblade87 said:
Lol, got ya calc on fix mode?
nah... didn't use a calculator, used the working out shown in the original post.
 
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therfore

the limit as x -> inf of 1 + (1 x 10^-x)
is the same as the limit as x -> inf of 1 - (1 x 10^-x)

comments?
 

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0.9999...
=0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009...
which is a GP with sum 1.

Any two unique numbers, rational OR irrational, must have another rational/irrational number in between them.
No number exists between 0.9999... and 1.
:. 0.9999... = 1

Gordo's:
0.9 = 1 - 10^-1
0.99 = 1 - 10^2
0.9999... = lim x->infinity 1 -10^-x = 1

Consider a square.
Take 9/10 of the area, and repeat.
If done an infinite number of times, the square is completely shaded.

Convinced yet? :p
 

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That is why maths is fucked.

Given that 1=2, 1=/=2 and now 0.9*=1; Maths = gay.
 

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No number exists between .99999999999... and 1, hence they are not distinct numbers, and hence .99999999...=1
 

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that might slightly affect the statistics on a colossal amount of discreet data
 

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klaw said:
Why do I get 0.99999.... = 1?
although 0.99999... [going on forever] doesnt look like it equals 1, it does for the reason that we can never write down infinity 9's because infinity is a concept and not a value
 

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brett86 said:
although 0.99999... [going on forever] doesnt look like it equals 1, it does for the reason that we can never write down infinity 9's because infinity is a concept and not a value
I agree...

i think that technically 0.99999.. will never be the same as 1.0, its just that the more 9s you add, the closer it approaches to 1.
 

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Gavrillo said:
That is why maths is fucked.

Given that 1=2, 1=/=2 and now 0.9*=1; Maths = gay.
1 is not equal to 2, the proof that states this is mathematically incorrect because of division by zero.
 

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MajinR said:
I agree...

i think that technically 0.99999.. will never be the same as 1.0, its just that the more 9s you add, the closer it approaches to 1.
Since you've said it goes to infinity then you've automatically defined it as the limit, and hence equal to one.
 

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Gavrillo said:
That is why maths is fucked.

Given that 1=2, 1=/=2 and now 0.9*=1; Maths = gay.
That is now my new favourite proof.
 

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this is no more than questions from the yellow fitzpatrick 2 u book.

theres an explanation in that textboook
 

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rama_v said:
1 is not equal to 2, the proof that states this is mathematically incorrect because of division by zero.
what is the proof that states it??? ive never seen it
 

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let n = 0.11... = 1/9
therefore
9n = 0.99... = 9/9 = 1

at least that's what i've been taught
 

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