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Dirty work, but its got to be done

With job losses and merger, there are the tough times for UWS, writes Brendan O'Keefe

STAFF and students at the University of Western Sydney — angry at what they say is a lack of consultation over course changes and redundancies have been warned. Things are going to get worse before they get better.
But when things do get better, the result will be an internationally competitive, streamlined university with increased research strength and money in the bank.
This is the vision of vice-chancellor Janice Reid, Who has guided the six- campus, 37,000-student University through its toughest years.
Essential to the vision is a 10-year, $100 million program of investment and development that will double the number of UWS’s internationally benchmarked re search centres and accommodate an extra 8000 students.
The proportion of foreign students is predicted to grow from 10 per cent to 15 per cent.
UWS plans to bolster money making ventures such as its University College, which offers foundation and English courses to for eign students.
It plans to increase revenue from a software business, intellectual property products and licences, and residences and conferences.
The proceeds will be invested in research expertise and appointments, which will reap further dividends in the long term, Professor Reid said.
After three years of pain, brought about partly by the federal Government’s refusal to Index re current grants to the university (and others), the UWS board of trustees met last month to endorse a plan under which the institution would, among other things, develop surplus land as residential, commercial and educational hubs. This would give “an assured source of funds in perpetuity”.
To save money, two of the university’s colleges will be merged and Its 21 schools will be reduced to 16.
“This period between now and midyear is particularly difficult be cause this is when all the change proposals are going through,” Professor Reid said.
“By midyear, the decisions will have been made by the board of trustees [which] academic units will be merged. We do expect some opposition.”
Last week, at least 18 academic staff in the school of computing and information technology were made redundant because of a blow out in the school’s salary budget. These redundancies would not be the lasts Professor Reid told the HES.
“We’re containing the number of voluntary redundancies in science and there may be others ... But they will be voluntary.”
The university’s $9 million budget deficit would be turned around to a bankable surplus, possibly as early as 2007.
“What we’re going to see over the next two or three years is we’ll reap the fruits of what has been a very difficult process,” Professor Reid said.
The difficult process has brought out many dissenters, who accuse university management of not consulting over course changes or cancellations, of ignoring union issues even when they have gone to industrial relations courts, of silencing opposition and of punitive reprisals. Professor Reid rejected all the claims, which have come from students, academics and union officials in various parts of the university.
it is a “campaign of complaint from a small number of people who would prefer the status quo”, she said. As for consultation, there were two schools of opinion.
One says “enough talk, let’s see the changes”, the other says “we don’t want to see change until there’s been more consultation”:
“Sometimes people ask for consultation to go on much longer because that means there’s an inevitable delay in the implementation of what are really critical changes and developments,” Professor Reid said.
Separate to the 10-year plan but equally important to Professor Reid and the university is its medical school, the first for Sydney’s west, which is slated to open in 2007. The federal Government has con tributed a $25 million Infrastructure grant and the NSW Government has given $18 million in kind (a mix of facilities and clinical professorships). It is a coup for UWS, whose catchment area contains some of Sydney’s poorest suburbs.
“One of our purposes is to give an opportunity to students, particularly in western Sydney, who will train, stay and open practices or work in hospitals in the west,” Professor Reid said. “Having been a staff member in a medical school for 15 years, I would be immensely thrilled and proud when the first students walk through the door.”

THE University of Western Sydney’s main aims:
*45,000 students (now 37,000)
*15 per cent international onshore students (now 10 per cent)
*12 internationally recognised research centres (now five)
*Research output at double last year’s level
*Close to 1000 research students from 600 this year
*Possible HECS increase from 2006
*Increase self-generated income 40 per cent of revenue
*Greater emphasis on postgraduate courses
*Raise $10 million to fund services if VSU is introduced
*Investment of $50 million over 10 years in research staff and infrastructure
*Increase research income from $25 million per year to $45 million
*Scholarships worth $1.5 million each year from 2006 or 2007
*UWS intends to be known for its student support, under a motto of “putting students first”
 

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i hope they dont sell parramatta.. i have a feeling they will tho :(
 

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Why would they sell parra? It never said anything about selling actual campuses. Are you thinking of merging schools???
 

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Cape said:
Why would they sell parra? It never said anything about selling actual campuses. Are you thinking of merging schools???
I was responding to Krisk85.
I wonder which schools are gonna be merged, im not actually sure if i belong in a school, cause of my degree
 

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Korn said:
I wonder which schools are gonna be merged, im not actually sure if i belong in a school, cause of my degree
You can belong to numerous schools. For example, this semester alone, I'm in three schools: school of science, food and horticulture, school of environment and agriculture and school of applied social and human sciences.

Different subjects have different schools. Generally you belong to one or two schools, but when you choose electives not related to your degree, you can end up with heaps of schools, which gets confusing after a while.
 

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You can belong to numerous schools. For example, this semester alone, I'm in three schools: school of science, food and horticulture, school of environment and agriculture and school of applied social and human sciences.

Different subjects have different schools. Generally you belong to one or two schools, but when you choose electives not related to your degree, you can end up with heaps of schools, which gets confusing after a while.
Do you have to do core units or can u customise a degree to what u want to doa as long as you do the prerequisite units
 

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Do you have to do core units or can u customise a degree to what u want to doa as long as you do the prerequisite units
I have one core unit each semester this year. I have to do atleast one subject each semester that is tourism related that it taught at the Hawkesbury campus. The other two subjects I can do on any campus in any field, as long as I have the prerequisites - but the two subjects I chose were level 100 subjects.

Next year for example is my research year, I have two core subjects each semester - these are mainly research subjects. There are tourism / environmental management subjects that are co-requisites, that I do with them. Then I have a free elective in each semester to choose any subject I want.

Its always best to follow the course structure though, to avoid clashes of core subjects later.
 

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Yeah cause i chose my major as Accounting, but have discovered I should have chosen Finance cause thats where my interests are
 

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Can't you choose some free electives for finance? I dunno much about the businessey degrees, so you might be better off talking to your course co-ordinator about it all.
 

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damn.....
i cant agree or disagree, they are trying to think about the future after all. cutting down schools? lucky i went out of cit and into biz.
 

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The problem that merging schools will have, will be a cutting of subjects. I know the tourism school was going to be merged with some other school - thats why the degree changed from either environmental management / tourism or (arts) tourism to B of tourism in either natural resource management or cultural heritage management. What happened this year, was a number of subjects got cut, others changed names but stayed the same subject, and I think that one new subject was introduced.
 

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I've said it all along and i'll say it again, merging schools is the right move, better yet merging of various campuses would be the perfect move. If u randomly ask some1 where UWS is located, I promise u 80% of which wouldn't have a clue, Why?...because there is far 2 many campuses. It's impossible 2 establish a world class Uni if there's so many campuses scattered all over the place, it's absolutely impossible I tell ya!!!...:cool:
 

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I've said it all along and i'll say it again, merging schools is the right move, better yet merging of various campuses would be the perfect move. If u randomly ask some1 where UWS is located, I promise u 80% of which wouldn't have a clue, Why?...because there is far 2 many campuses. It's impossible 2 establish a world class Uni if there's so many campuses scattered all over the place, it's absolutely impossible I tell ya!!!...:cool:
You have a point
 

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HerO said:
I've said it all along and i'll say it again, merging schools is the right move, better yet merging of various campuses would be the perfect move. If u randomly ask some1 where UWS is located, I promise u 80% of which wouldn't have a clue, Why?...because there is far 2 many campuses. It's impossible 2 establish a world class Uni if there's so many campuses scattered all over the place, it's absolutely impossible I tell ya!!!...:cool:
I was wonderng how long it would take you to reply :p

Merging schools HAS NOTHING to do with the 6 campuses. The schools are found on all the campuses anyway, it just depends on what subjects are taught.

People know where most of the campuses are, sure, parra is well known (hence its so popular) while places like hawkesbury and campbelltown aren't as well known.

Do you have any idea why we have 6 campuses? The 6 campuses are split up because they each have a specific area of study. For example, parra is mainly business with a little science. Theres no why in hell they could teach enquine systems or horticulture or agriculture in the middle of the city! Thats why Hawkesbury is there.
 

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I was wonderng how long it would take you to reply :p

Merging schools HAS NOTHING to do with the 6 campuses. The schools are found on all the campuses anyway, it just depends on what subjects are taught.

People know where most of the campuses are, sure, parra is well known (hence its so popular) while places like hawkesbury and campbelltown aren't as well known.

Do you have any idea why we have 6 campuses? The 6 campuses are split up because they each have a specific area of study. For example, parra is mainly business with a little science. Theres no why in hell they could teach enquine systems or horticulture or agriculture in the middle of the city! Thats why Hawkesbury is there.
The idea of having different campuses 2 teach different disciplines is illogical, look at the other Unis, the top Unis in Sydney can combine all the various faculties in 1 or 2 campuses, why can't UWS do that as well?...if the parra campus is so popular then it would be a great idea 2 build UWS in that area, make it a really big campus instead of small itsy bitsy campuses here and there, it's juz impossible 2 establish a Uni of any good reputation if u do it that way...:cool:
 

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The idea of having different campuses 2 teach different disciplines is illogical, look at the other Unis, the top Unis in Sydney can combine all the various faculties in 1 or 2 campuses, why can't UWS do that as well?...if the parra campus is so popular then it would be a great idea 2 build UWS in that area, make it a really big campus instead of small itsy bitsy campuses here and there, it's juz impossible 2 establish a Uni of any good reputation if u do it that way...:cool:
Bloody fuck! Where the hell do you propose they build in parramatta? Its over populated and a dense urban area (crap, I'm sounding far too logical for hero now).

And are UWS campuses really itsy bitsy? For you info Hawkesbury is the largest campus I think in Sydney - its almost twice the size of UNSW.

Sizes of campuses + number of campuses does not equal reputation.

Teaching disciplines at different campuses is logical. They can NOT fit a farm and a vineyard at Parramatta.

Also, its much nicer to attend a campus with only a couple of thousand people rather than the whole 37,000 people on one campus. You'd never get a computer, there'd be no textbooks left, the lines at the cafeteria would be far too long. And not to mention that the transport in the area would not be able to cope. (I think these urban geography lessons are paying off :p)
 

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Bloody fuck! Where the hell do you propose they build in parramatta? Its over populated and a dense urban area (crap, I'm sounding far too logical for hero now).

And are UWS campuses really itsy bitsy? For you info Hawkesbury is the largest campus I think in Sydney - its almost twice the size of UNSW.

Sizes of campuses + number of campuses does not equal reputation.

Teaching disciplines at different campuses is logical. They can NOT fit a farm and a vineyard at Parramatta.

Also, its much nicer to attend a campus with only a couple of thousand people rather than the whole 37,000 people on one campus. You'd never get a computer, there'd be no textbooks left, the lines at the cafeteria would be far too long. And not to mention that the transport in the area would not be able to cope. (I think these urban geography lessons are paying off :p)
No offence but ur really stating the obvious
 

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Cape said:
Bloody fuck! Where the hell do you propose they build in parramatta? Its over populated and a dense urban area (crap, I'm sounding far too logical for hero now).

And are UWS campuses really itsy bitsy? For you info Hawkesbury is the largest campus I think in Sydney - its almost twice the size of UNSW.

Sizes of campuses + number of campuses does not equal reputation.

Teaching disciplines at different campuses is logical. They can NOT fit a farm and a vineyard at Parramatta.

Also, its much nicer to attend a campus with only a couple of thousand people rather than the whole 37,000 people on one campus. You'd never get a computer, there'd be no textbooks left, the lines at the cafeteria would be far too long. And not to mention that the transport in the area would not be able to cope. (I think these urban geography lessons are paying off :p)
I don't really care where they build the large campus, as long as they do it and if they do then I guarantee success, mark my words, if it's wrong, don't blame me :p

But seriously though, how can u build any success if none of ur campuses has achieved much recognition at all, 2 build so many campuses without 1 even coming close 2 being world class yet is beyong me...:cool:
 

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