Candaditure performance and school rank. (1 Viewer)

[sepul]

I know that if your year performes well in a subject ( above state average ) then you will all benefit from better scaling, but what happens if only say, the top 10% of your year performes really really well, will they be brought down and pull everyone else up, or will they only benefit from better scaling, or not at all ?

And also I've noticed people have been talking about their school rank, where can I get this information, and what is it based on, the previous year's HSC performance, or the accumulation of all the HSC performances ?

Thanks

 

[Lazarus]

Originally posted by sepul
I know that if your year performes well in a subject ( above state average ) then you will all benefit from better scaling, but what happens if only say, the top 10% of your year performes really really well, will they be brought down and pull everyone else up, or will they only benefit from better scaling, or not at all ?

Mmm it's not scaling - it affects the moderation of your assessment marks... doesn't touch your exam marks at all. With regard to your second example, the top person would be rewarded appropriately, and the rewards diminish as you go down from there...

You can observe the effect here:
http://www.boredofstudies.org/moderate.php
NB: This is a prototype only!

Originally posted by sepul
And also I've noticed people have been talking about their school rank, where can I get this information, and what is it based on, the previous year's HSC performance, or the accumulation of all the HSC performances ?

Based on 2002 results only - the list is marked as one of the "Important" threads in this forum.

 

[sepul]

ok, thanks.

Yeah when I said "scaling" I meant assessment mark moderation.

 

[sugaryblue]

I hate how this whole HSC moderated assessment mark thing is done

 

[Ragerunner]

Originally posted by sugaryblue
I hate how this whole HSC moderated assessment mark thing is done

It's actually pretty fair, although it does sound kind of weird and very comfusing, so far I don't think there is any other way to handle it without some sort of bias seeing as though the only thing that can be compared throughout schools is the common HSC exam.

 

[sugaryblue]

Well i guess it's better than just to depend it at the end of year exam. which they do in France

 

[sepul]

france, haha

Yeah I like how it's done, although it does place a lot of pressure on the HSC exams, because that's the only true marker to compare students.

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by sugaryblue
Well i guess it's better than just to depend it at the end of year exam. which they do in France

i would die under that pressue.

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Lazarus
...You can observe the effect here:
http://www.boredofstudies.org/moderate.php
NB: This is a prototype only!

its a cool program u have there laz....my teacher actually gave me the result of a class (witht the names rubbed off) with all their assessment, exam, moderated assessment marks, i will test ya program out with that (but thats if i find it ).

 

[sepul]

hmm I'll check it out now...

 

[sepul]

I don't think I'm using it right, either that or it's fucked up.

Each assessment mark/exam mark line is seperate from the next right ? Because when I enter all of the collums full it changes the values of some of them when I just have the top two filled in.

 

[flyin']

Originally posted by Lazarus
You can observe the effect here:
http://www.boredofstudies.org/moderate.php
NB: This is a prototype only!

Nifty!

Originally posted by sepul
I don't think I'm using it right, either that or it's fucked up.

Each assessment mark/exam mark line is seperate from the next right ? Because when I enter all of the collums full it changes the values of some of them when I just have the top two filled in.

Try filling each of the spaces with one number only, such as 60 or so, and see if works for you.

 

[Lazarus]

Originally posted by sepul
I don't think I'm using it right, either that or it's fucked up.

Each assessment mark/exam mark line is seperate from the next right ? Because when I enter all of the collums full it changes the values of some of them when I just have the top two filled in.

Post the marks you're entering and describe what you think should be happening (as opposed to what actually happens).

It's entirely possible that there's a bug or two - it's only a prototype, as I said.

 

[freaking_out]

hey laz, is it possible to enter more than 10 students?

 

[Lazarus]

I can add extra inputs... how many do you need?

 

[sepul]

flyin' - I was only entering one number.

Laz - Say if I put as the assessment marks "85 80 60 70" then to the corresponding exam marks "80 85 70 60" then the "moderated mark" comes out to be 85, 80 60 and 70 - exactly the same as the assessment marks.

 

[Lazarus]

Originally posted by sepul
Laz - ... the "moderated mark" comes out to be ... exactly the same as the assessment marks.

When the distribution of exam marks is exactly the same as the distribution of assessment marks, there is no need for any adjustment.

Remember, it doesn't matter which student gains which exam mark - it is only the distribution of exam marks that is used to moderate the assessment marks.

 

[CasaNovo]

So what's this program actually do?
Does it give you an example of what your hsc mark will be like?

 

[honky tonk]

Oh my god.. I think I finally understand the concept of the moderated assessment marks.

*LoL*

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Lazarus
I can add extra inputs... how many do you need?

i reckon 20 is a good no.

or if its not too hard, just make it that we get to choose the amount of input bfore we start.