Combinations q (1 Viewer)

ExtremelyBoredUser

Bored Uni Student
Joined
Jan 11, 2021
Messages
2,478
Location
m
Gender
Male
HSC
2022
(10C5)/2 = 126

This is how I think of these type of questions so take this with a grain of salt, there's many ways to interpret combinatorics questions:

The reason for this is that the teams are indistinguishable rather than distinguishable meaning that each groups can be selected in an identical manner and hence you would do the regular 10C5 (5 people in one group) and divide it by 2 to account for situations where the groups are identical but in different positions.

e.g
Scenario 1:
G1: ABCD G2: EFGH
Scenario 2:
G2: EFGH G1: ABCD

^^^ different order but same combination

If this question asked for 2 distinguishable teams, then you would consider the order of the groups, but the question is simply asking for how they can be split into 2 teams so you would disregard the other scenario with identical combinations but different order. The first question (A) is an example of distinguishable property since you would consider the order of groups; this one you're just only caring about the combinations possible.
 

jimmysmith560

Le Phénix Trilingue
Moderator
Joined
Aug 22, 2019
Messages
4,592
Location
Krak des Chevaliers
Gender
Male
HSC
2019
Uni Grad
2022
Thank you so much for the help really appreciate it. Would you be able to also help me out with this one as well? Q5 i,j
For part (i):

Let's just say we want the 2 non-diamond cards first with the diamond card last:

First two cards: 39C2 ways of drawing

Third card: 13C1 ways of drawing

Since this is happening simultaneously, multiply them together. However, this is only 1 way of drawing the three cards so we multiply by 3! since there are 3! ways of drawing these 3 cards.

So number of ways = 39C2.13C1.3! = 57798.

Total number of ways = 52x51x50 = 132600.

.'. probability = 57798/132600 = 741/1700

For part (j):

At least two diamonds
2 diamonds and 1 non-diamond - 13C2*39C1 = 3 024
3 diamonds and 0 non-diamond - 13C3*39C0 = 286

Since both are ways that it can happen, add both together
Total number of ways = 52C3 = 22100
Probability = 3328/22100 = 64/425
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
I endorse the comments of @ExtremelyBoredUser, you need to think carefully when constructing groups whether they are distinguishable or not.

One way students can be tricked is to be asked in how many ways can a group of ten people be split into:
(a) a group of 4 and a group of 6
(b) two groups of 5

Also, on probabilities, sometimes they are helpful as a first step.

For example, in how many ways can I a group of 10 people be formed into a line to walk through a doorway such that one particular person, Y, enters before Z but after X.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top