English Ranking (1 Viewer)

[Libbster]

I've searched through all the threads, and I can't seem to find anything on this particular topic. I am currently ranked ninth in English and the people ahead of me are all tied. It goes like this:

1st 3 people on 52/55
4th 2 people on 51/55
6th 2 people on 50/55
8th 1 person on 49/55
9th me tied with someone else on 47/55

We only have 1 assessment task worth 15 % to go before the trials, which are worth 30%. If the ranks stay similar to this after the trials, how does the moderating or aliging process go. Say I went really well in HSC eg 90 and people tied above me only got 87, does my mark of 90 go to both people and then am I allocated the lowest 9th mark? Please explain, as I am confused!

Thanks
Libby

 

[Libbster]

Anybody?!!

 

[gordo]

u will get the 9th lowest hsc exam mark as your itnernal assessment mark
and your hsc exam mark as your hsc exam mark

then the average of the two is your hsc mark

 

[shafqat]

Not quite. You have to take the assessment marks into account as well. If they are bunched together, then the students' total hsc marks will be distributed for your school assessment marks in that manner.

 

[gordo]

here i wrote this a while ago, its pretty accurate

http://www.boredofstudies.org/community/showpost.php?p=997686&postcount=1

 

[shafqat]

That explanation is pretty accurate. Referring to your post above though, consider this situation:

2 person class
internal assessment marks
person A: 92
person B: 90

external
person A: 84
person B: 98

It would be unfair if person B got the second highest external hsc mark as his internal assessment marks.

 

[gordo]

it doesn;t work like that though

total internal pool = 182
A gets 92 / 182 = 0.505494505
B gets 90 / 182 = 0. 494505494

wow thats an awesome repeater pattern

total external pool = 182
A gets 0.505494505 * 182 = 92
B gets 0.494505494 * 182 = 90

A gets 92 + 84 / 2 = 88
B gets 90 + 98 / 2 = 94

i.e. B significantly beats A

 

[shafqat]

Yep, you've calculated that correct, but if person B got the second highest external hsc mark as his internal assessment marks, which is what you claimed in the post above, then the internal marks would have been unfairly skewed.

 

[gordo]

oh u mean in my first post
yeh i knew that was wrong but it was the simple answer thats easy to understand if u have no idea how the ranking system works

the latter is more accurate

 

[shafqat]

oh good. understand now.

 

[Lazarus]

The calculations above are technically incorrect - refer to this post.

 

[gordo]

isn't that post just saying the exam marks are handed out in rank order as assessment marks?

 

[2005 edition]

Are you in advanced or standard english?
Plz dont tell me ur standard?? your skools 6th position is equvilent to my skools 1st place..

 

[Trev]

Are you in advanced or standard english?
Plz dont tell me ur standard?? your skools 6th position is equvilent to my skools 1st place..

Her profile says Advanced English.

 

[Lazarus]

isn't that post just saying the exam marks are handed out in rank order as assessment marks?

No - it just happens to work out that way for a class of only three people.

If you actually read the PDF document to which that post links, you'll find an example of a class of six where that doesn't occur.

 

[Libbster]

No, that's not me, but my name is Libby