How to "develop" a thesis and better expression ? (1 Viewer)

zenger69

Bok Choyer
Joined
Aug 29, 2004
Messages
673
Location
Hot Sydney's place
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
Today i handed in a practise essay question for my teacher to look over before I attempt to do my English Advanced Assessment.

She kept saying to me "you need to develop your thesis" without explaining to me how...........

and "the ideas are fine but are generally poorly expressed".

Does anyone know what I can do to:
1) Better develop my thesis towards "Journey Leads To Greater Understanding" ?

2) Better expression?
 

Sepulchres

t3h sultan
Joined
Nov 10, 2004
Messages
459
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
zenger69 said:
Today i handed in a practise essay question for my teacher to look over before I attempt to do my English Advanced Assessment.

She kept saying to me "you need to develop your thesis" without explaining to me how...........

and "the ideas are fine but are generally poorly expressed".

Does anyone know what I can do to:
1) Better develop my thesis towards "Journey Leads To Greater Understanding" ?

2) Better expression?
I wouldn't know about a thesis but expression if something I have/had trouble with. It generally means that the essay doesnt really flow. A way to overcome this is to tie all your techniques/quotes/ideas without actually saying so. Eg. "Barriers, segregation, partitions, bridges to be crossed are a common motif in these poems to express the fact that these people weren't able to make the journey." Instead of "A technique used to show that these people weren't able to make the journey is the use of motifs."

Note: I dont even know if that example makes sense but thats just for you to see the difference. ^_^
 

zenger69

Bok Choyer
Joined
Aug 29, 2004
Messages
673
Location
Hot Sydney's place
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
yes i can see the difference and i guess the teacher did highlight the bits about awkard.

But yeah...... omg i'm really stuck....
 

Shell

Boo Hoo
Joined
Nov 14, 2004
Messages
2,158
Location
Camden
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
yeh i handed in a draft yesterday. like, you, my teacher sed it was kinda all over the place. but i already knew that, it was only a draft. she sed my thesis is really good and strong. here it is.

A physical journey involves obstacles and movements to new places. They allow travellers to extend themselves physically, intellectually and emotionally as they respond to the challenges and learn more about themselves and the world around them. A physical journey can be voluntary or involuntary and the outcomes or results are unpredictable.

after that i just had piddly little bits n pieces of paragraphs. i understand how to fix it but i cant be bothered at the moment.
 

zenger69

Bok Choyer
Joined
Aug 29, 2004
Messages
673
Location
Hot Sydney's place
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
ok... so you believe if I make my introduction stronger maybe my thesis will be more developed?

Well here's my intro so far... I'll be working on it

An inner journey can be defined as a challenging experience undergone by an individual as a result the individual has grown, developed and changed perspectives. Even though those outcomes will vary between individuals, all inner journeys result in some form of greater understanding.

thanx
 

ameh

dirty trick
Joined
Oct 21, 2003
Messages
2,688
Location
The Ludovico Centre
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
You need to write more practice essays an hand them into the teacher, book one on one sessions with your english teacher and go through your past essays or assessments to see where your expression is lacking and how to fix this.
If your ideas are everywhere (mine are usually!) then you should learn to structure your responses so that the sentences aren't long winded. Long winded sentences tend to obstruct the idea you are trying to convey and don't make it easier or clearer to the marker.
If paragraphing and indentation isn't the problem, then as the method sepulchres mentioned, you might try the technique of nomalisation (changing of verbs into nouns) - I think that's how you spell it =/
There should be a thread on Bored about generic sentence structures, e.g. the SEXY method!
 

Slidey

But pieces of what?
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
6,600
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
"An inner journey can be defined as a challenging experience undergone by an individual as a result the individual has grown, developed and changed perspectives. Even though those outcomes will vary between individuals, all inner journeys result in some form of greater understanding."

I always try to define the journey without explicitly stating that I am doing so. Here's mine for last year's HSC Q ("The journey not the arrival is what matters":

To imagine is to project yourself into another world, perhaps similar to, perhaps different from reality. Each time we imagine, we are taking a journey through this world we've conjured. But where do we arrive at the end of this imaginative journey, do we ever arrive, and is the arrival important? A good story has suspense - it builds up the characters and locations along the way, it takes you into the imaginative world where it dwells and most importantly it takes you on an adventure - and it is that adventure which matters. In 'On Giant's Shoulders', by Melvyn Bragg we explore the scientific imagination, the imaginative journey of science which over time becomes reality's journey. This journey is represented in the book as a journey without end, as a journey which is self-rewarding. This non-fiction prose adapted from a radio programme conveys an unending scientific journey which epitomises the idea that the journey is what matters - for there is no arrival in science. In these imaginative worlds of daydreaming, storytelling and scientific imagination, we see that it is the journey, not the arrival, that matters. The journey is the real reward.

Roughly, for intro:
1) Definition of (type of) journey: Thesis, interpretation of essay question
2) Refer to texts being used (text form, title, author, context of production, purpose)
3) Concept that links texts to questions/thesis/journey.

Flow and style are more intuitive skills. I tend to be upbeat and both questioning and answering.
 

ameh

dirty trick
Joined
Oct 21, 2003
Messages
2,688
Location
The Ludovico Centre
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
The first sentence is confusing, and needs to be condensed, the final sentence is better.

The inner journey allows the individual to grow, develop and ultimately change perceptions. It can take the form of a challenging experience undertaken by the individual, to arrive at a greater form of understanding of oneself.
 

ameh

dirty trick
Joined
Oct 21, 2003
Messages
2,688
Location
The Ludovico Centre
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
Get your teacher to photocopy the essay which got the highest mark and see how they structured it. It should give you some idea on where to go!
 

Slidey

But pieces of what?
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
6,600
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
zenger69 said:
So should I look at qoutes or........ i'm still stuck....omg...
Don't touch quotes in your intro. Anything you say in the intro you do not need to prove, as long as you prove it later.
 

Shell

Boo Hoo
Joined
Nov 14, 2004
Messages
2,158
Location
Camden
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
does anyone know where to get an example band 5/6 response from? my essay is due on monday and my teacher sed look on boardofstudies site but i couldnt find any!!! i just need a example of a good response to model mine on
 

Sepulchres

t3h sultan
Joined
Nov 10, 2004
Messages
459
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
Goto the Area of Study section and you should find some under "Gerenal" name "Exemplar Band 5/6 resonse" or along those lines. I dont know if they are related to Journeys though _?_
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top