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can someone show me step to step of the this question please and not just put the answer.

Differentiate y = a^2x
 

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The most familiar way is to probably just use the chain rule.
Let u = a^x, then y = u^2.

We have dy/du = 2u and du/dx = ln(a)*a^x.

dy/dx = dy/du * du/dx = 2u*ln(a)*a^x = 2(a^x)*ln(a)*a^x = 2*ln(a)*a^(2x).

Try a^(3x) and you'll notice a pattern though, which will be handy for exams.
 

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u might also like to consider chaning a^2x into e^(bx), so its easier to differentiate.

e^(b) = a^(2x)

log both sides...==> ln[e^(b)] = ln[a^(2x)'

using our log laws...that ln(a^b) = b*lna...

b [ln e] = 2x ln a, so b = 2xlna

so a^(2x) = e^2lnax, noting that 2lna is a constant.

so, d[a^(2x)]/dx = d[e^2lnax]/dx = [2lna][e^2lnax] = [2lna][a^(2x)]
 

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i kinda get it but can u also help me with this question (6x^2+1).a^x
 

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Use the product rule:

let u=6x2+1 => u'=12x

let v=ax => v'=ax.logea

d/dx(uv)=uv' + vu'
 
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im confused about the a^x/lna= v'. how does that work out
 

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Sorry, I meant to multiply ax and ln a. Fixed now. ;)
 

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lol, this may sound stupid... but why is the derivative of ax = ax.lna???? i forgot if i ever learnt this (i probably have and forgot :))


also, another question, what is the derivative of:
y=ex2
 

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Iruka, thanks, i dont think i ever learnt that...

so from doing that, is d/dx[a3x ]
3a2x.lna

actually, i remembered teh question wrong...
its meant to me

d/dx [xex]
 
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xex=elogexex
=eex.logex

Now you can use the chain rule [as well as the product rule for the derivative of the index] to differentiate it. :)
 

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thanks, i would've never got that...
how'd you know to add the eloge? just practice lots?
 

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darkliight said:
Close, write out your working.
y=a3x

let u=ax
y=u3

du/dx=ax.lna
dy/du=3u2

du/dx.dy/du=dy/dx

dy/dx=3u2.ax.lna
=3(ax)2.ax.lna
=3a3x.lna

thats right now... i think... my dy/du was wrong before
 

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Nice :) And you should be able to see a general rule for d/dx a^(nx) now.

y=a^(-4x)
and
y=a^(pi*x)

should be easy now without even thinking about them.
 
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abcd9146 said:
thanks, i would've never got that...
how'd you know to add the eloge? just practice lots?
I knew you can't differentiate xf(x), so the only way I could have done it was raise it to the power e, so that I could.
But of course, it all comes with practice and experience. ;)
 

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Yep, I've seen it, but the problem is we were given an expression to differentiate, so we had very little choice but to change it into base e. Anyway, implicit differentiation and I by parts is cool. :D
 
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logarithmic differentiation... how does that work?? from what you did, you log both sides, then differentiate then seperately, but why do you times by dy/dx on the LHS?

oh and would they ask these types of questions in the 2 or 3 unit HSC
 
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They would probably ask simple differentiations of af(x), nothing too difficult if they ask it, because it rarely appears in the HSC exams.

Not too sure why the dy/dx is there, haven't learnt implicit differentiation myself yet.
 

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