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'Inspiring' Howard wins world statesman honour
By Misha Schubert
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August 5, 2005


American President George Bush calls him "a man of steel" and a "man of heart". Now a well-connected US charitable foundation has weighed in, declaring John Howard their "world statesman" of the year.

The Appeal of Conscience Foundation, a Manhattan-based group that is an advocate for religious freedom and human rights, said it had chosen the Australian Prime Minister for his "inspiring leadership" since 1996.

Past winners include former Canadian prime minister Jean Chretien, former South Korean president Kim Dae-jung, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev, and former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher.

"John Howard will receive the World Statesman Award for his inspiring leadership that has made Australia a beacon of democracy, religious freedom and human rights and for his courageous stand against international terrorism," foundation president Rabbi Arthur Schneier said on Wednesday.

Mr Howard's role in developing a second major greenhouse pact to rival the Kyoto Protocol, the Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate, was also mentioned in his citation.

A spokesman for Mr Howard said the Prime Minister would accept the award - but would not be able to attend the presentation dinner in New York next month.

The award might be accepted on his behalf by the Australian ambassador, he said.

The A-list dinner is to be hosted by Novartis chief executive Daniel Vasella, and John Whitehead, the chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

Besides honouring political leaders, the foundation bestows awards on business chiefs deemed to have advanced its aims for tolerance.

Two years ago it honoured Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina. This year it will grant awards to Nokia chief executive Jorma Ollila and Peter Peterson, the co-founder of The Blackstone Group (a global investment and advisory firm) and a former chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Source: http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...r/2005/08/04/1123125850493.html?oneclick=true
This thread was created so that the following issue may be debated, and by that I mean debated, so please try to avoid simplistic comments such as 'I luv Howard' or 'I hate Howard he suxor'.

Australia under Howard's leadership of the Coalition Government is a beacon of democracy, religious freedom and human rights. Any thoughts on the beacon of shining light that is Australia?
 

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I think the list of past recepients just shows exactly how much value this "award" should really hold. Not much.
 

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And what exactly is wrong with Schroeder, Gorbachev, Thatcher etc? They are undeniable statespersons....
 

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Since being elected on the basis of creating a "relaxed and comfortable" Australia, and proudly claiming title as the most conservative Liberal leader, he's done everything in his power to dull public interest in politics. Since Labor awoke the country from its crippling slumber, Liberal policy has been a seductive lullaby - offering the familiar, the predictable, the mediocre.

Labor's push for a Republic and leadership in the region is frozen, if not destroyed; we've become the followers we've always been - deputy sheriffs to great and powerful friends.

Instead of being up-front about his views on issues such as the environment and immigration, like Thatcher may have been, he found a mask in 1996 and has rarely been seen without it since.

Manning Clark's two classes of people; the enlargers of life and the punishers or straighteners - the lovers and others - accuratley placed Howard in the latter class. His reforms largely revolve around school-boy stamp-your-feet ideology rather than true national interest.

Like Menzies before him, he prefers to rule rather than govern; To be popular amoung the electorate, or the U.S, rather than be a true leader.
Rather than point to an optimistic future, he clings to a grim view of the past - trotting the globe to be apart of any greiving, any mourning, anything that paints the present as something to be content with.

Even though Australians and the silly state of the Labor party are not without blame, no matter where you look at it - from the left or right - Howard is not inspirational.
 

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When Labor put the wheels in motion for a Republic (opening debate, committees, education etc), the architect (Keating) lost government, then Kimbo didnt win it back after him. Howard never supported it, but was bound to give it the referendum in 1999. It had no hope of success without support from the Commonwealth.
 

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Hardly inspirational but a very cany political operator, Ironwoman where that there were rep I would cover your first post with it...
 

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Whitlam wasn't for a Republic before he was dismissed...
Since Hawke, Labor's done everything it could to convince the public. They wouldn't have bothered with a ref. if they knew it would be regected, like Howard knew.

edit: When we called in the New Milleneum at Sydney, with the eyes of the world on us, we failed to step up to the reasonable goal of having a republic (and perhaps something other than the union jack in the flag). It's one of the darkest chapters of the Howard years and I hope history never forgives him for it.
 
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This thread isn't about the Republic.
Keating was the last truely inspiring PM, but he was unfortunatly so good at this that enough people were inspired to vote the other way. Howard has so far avoided this.
 

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Iron said:
Since being elected on the basis of creating a "relaxed and comfortable" Australia, and proudly claiming title as the most conservative Liberal leader, he's done everything in his power to dull public interest in politics. Since Labor awoke the country from its crippling slumber, Liberal policy has been a seductive lullaby - offering the familiar, the predictable, the mediocre.

Labor's push for a Republic and leadership in the region is frozen, if not destroyed; we've become the followers we've always been - deputy sheriffs to great and powerful friends.

Instead of being up-front about his views on issues such as the environment and immigration, like Thatcher may have been, he found a mask in 1996 and has rarely been seen without it since.

Manning Clark's two classes of people; the enlargers of life and the punishers or straighteners - the lovers and others - accuratley placed Howard in the latter class. His reforms largely revolve around school-boy stamp-your-feet ideology rather than true national interest.

Like Menzies before him, he prefers to rule rather than govern; To be popular amoung the electorate, or the U.S, rather than be a true leader.
Rather than point to an optimistic future, he clings to a grim view of the past - trotting the globe to be apart of any greiving, any mourning, anything that paints the present as something to be content with.

Even though Australians and the silly state of the Labor party are not without blame, no matter where you look at it - from the left or right - Howard is not inspirational.
^rep

you said it
 

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"John Howard will receive the World Statesman Award for his inspiring leadership that has made Australia a beacon of democracy, religious freedom and human rights and for his courageous stand against international terrorism," foundation president Rabbi Arthur Schneier said on Wednesday.
Surely, this award was founded purely to annoy. It's verging on satire.
 

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The move towards a Republic will be symbolic if the right system is chosen - i.e parliament electing the President/GG (much like today). A popular election of a President would shift the power balance from Parliament. I'd prefer the current arrangments rather than that.
But all the other issues - relevance, national identity, maturity etc. are up for grabs. There's no excuse for not being a Republic.
 

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Are any other Republicans also into the idea of a Unitary system rather than a Federated one?
 

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Asquithian said:
The republic will not be on the agenda for quite some time. Anyways as mentioned a are a republic in reality or at least in the way we act as a nation.
But that's the aint broke argument.
I expect Costello to raise it sometime. It will be quick and painless.
Maybe the flag will have to wait a little longer.
 

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Hmm... one way to look at it could be to look at the achievements which Australia has had while John Howard has been in power (many).

Tho I don't particulary see him as an inspiring figure, more of a governing figure... don't say he hasn't done controversial things because that's nonsense.
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
Hmm... one way to look at it could be to look at the achievements which Australia has had while John Howard has been in power (many).

Tho I don't particulary see him as an inspiring figure, more of a governing figure... don't say he hasn't done controversial things because that's nonsense.
*Thinks* Ok. I'll take issue with that (for old times sake). I don't deal in extremes, Howard's seen the good (like gun laws) and the bad. But I think that he has worked from a wrecker platform on things like the republic, immigration, our role in Asia, Mabo. In this way he exceeds Menzies (who simply let opportunities fly by).
I dont think that he made risks when it hadn't been safe. I dont agree that Iraq was controversial. It was a clear signal of Australia's willingness to submit to the influence of powerful friends. I think there was stability in that.
 

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He's the worst leader for Australia, but for all the others.

We need a leader who'll back his own beliefs before anyone elses. And, a conservative who's willing to sacrifice elements of society which the majority of voters don't care about (theatre, health, education) for those which they do (terrorism, the economy, foreigners).

There's a great book I just finished called "God Under Howard" by Marilyn Maddox.

Whilst it stands firmly against Howard's early, anti-foreigner policies which have remained at the center of his political philosophy throughout his career, it feels he's the best leader for our time.

Just like Thatcher.
 

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The dramatic changes of the '80-90s, around the west, created a tiredness and longing for the familiar, I suppose. A domestically-focused Blair, basic Bush, comfortable and relaxed Howard.
But the times can be wrong. It's almost like people would rather not think about the big picture. Stay away from politicians who use big words and talk about big changes.
Oh dear. I just had an impure thought about autocracy.
 

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anti-mathmite said:
Things that people say shall be quick and painless, are rarely quick and never painless. If it were to be quick and painless, and should not cause even a tiny bump.. Why bother changing it at all?

Yes .. Remove the Union Jack.. Of course. Attack Australia's white heritage :rolleyes: . So what's your interest in this case? Just the usual? Your a wog.. Towely?? What?

All i can say, is i have NO clue what you have that women in your avatar.
Anti, if you want to resort to baseless, baiting terms, no one will play. Try get on with people. It's better for your health.

The significance of the Republic is to formally assert to the world the truth we already know. We're unique; have our own outlook, aspirations and place in the world. We dont need to have our hand held.
Invading Iraq, finding our security From Asia, not In Asia gives the world and ourselves the opposite impression.
The same goes for the Union Jack. Brits were once Celts, Anglos, Saxons, Romans. Get the picture? We changed the anthem, no probs - Only the most lazy of the dominions have kept jacky.
The only plausible case for the flag is that it was fought under (in the last war at least).
In terms of these changes, all we have is a sense of plodding inevitability. The ship that was the Olympics has sailed. But it's simply not a question of why anymore, it's when.
 
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I think Julie Baird summed up John Howard's vist to Washington the best-
'In the photos of him holding Bush's hand, Howard looked very, very excited and a little overwhelmed, like the nerd at school who found himself suddenly befriended by the cool guys, not realising they only wanted to use his house for a party'.

Full article- http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/...s-out-our-image/2005/07/22/1121539149920.html
 

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I don't have much to offer to this debate at the moment, other than this- I find Howard tottaly uninspiring as a young person.

Gavrillo- Your plans don't seem particuarly well thought out (the majority don't care about health and education?) but you may have been joking. Either way, the ideas you've put forward are more radical than they are conservative.
 

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