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Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts or advice regarding neon lights for cars. I'm interested in buying some to put on the underbody of my car (about to order an Astra Coupe CDX) and was wondering what I need to buy, and how should I go about installing them. I've seen some sets available online (in USA though) where there are remote controls and they have fancy designs and so on with multiple colour LEDs, but I'm not sure if they are compatible with our power in Australia? I also wonder how exactly to install them, or if there are any good places to get it done (I live in the Hills district btw). Cigarette lighter is apparently one method, but I'd rather not have an extra cable cluttering up my interior.

As for legal requirements, I was also wondering what the laws are regarding them? I heard we cannot use them whilst driving, but if the car is parked then it's okay. I also wonder how strong they are (eg. if I drive on a dirt road with lots of small rocks, will it crack the neons?).

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cant help ya mate... i would never ever consider putting neons on/under my car. they look like such shit.
 

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seremify007 said:
(eg. if I drive on a dirt road with lots of small rocks, will it crack the neons?).

Ta.
Let's hope so shall we?
 

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In other words it isn’t really worth it unless you intent to park outside expensive places to show it off and its illegal.
 
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their illigla mate ones under the car fine is 90 bucks...

mate got done for having them on his car..

the ones inside the car are ok if their not mounted like in front of the rear view mirror or something....
 

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I dunno why but I just feel like putting neons... 'coz the other night I was walking past the local shops and I saw all these parked cars (alas they were Commodores..) with neons underneath them and I couldn't help but think they looked nice.

I know someone who put neon lights inside his Echo near the pedals... and I definitely do not want to do that.
 

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Ok in terms of what to use and how:

Cold cathodes would be the best bet in terms of what lights to use. Units from overseas are compatible.

All light options can be powered by 12V power so basically its a piece of piss to install the wiring just grab some constant power (constant so that the lights will run when the ignition is off) and route that to the lights. Obviously via a switch in the dash somewhere otherwise they would never turn off.

My suggestion is that you install some new wiring direct to the battery (though more shonkily you could draw off the recievers constant power) you might need to drill a hole in teh firewall to do this. Connect this to a switch in the dash (maybe a missile switch?) now install another wire from the switch to the lights themselves (or their control unit).

Doing it this way is much harder than the cigarette lighter approach as it involves among other things installing wiring, drilling holes and removing a whole lot of trim - not for the faint hearted.
 

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Two things- is it easy to find a shop to do it, and will this void my warranty? One of the reasons I picked the Astra over the Mini is that the dealer offers a 6 year warranty with it... Is there any self-powered systems available? Thx.
 

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probly coould get some dodgey battery powerd kit for neons on ebay lol

their are always the hell dodgey lighter hook up ones when u can run some hell dodgey wire to under the car lol...

but seriously go for a nice mod like a pod or a set of 17s or heavy tints..

neons are ricey
 

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Ok neons will not void you warranty.

A self-powered unit is an exceedingly bad idea - think about it for half a second and you'll see why eg a self-powered unit must be powered by something - batteries. The batteries you'd need for this application will be expensive and you also get the added hassle of having to swap the batteries all the time (which would typically require you to get your hands dirtier than I guess you like).

So basically it would be more of a pain in the arse than what I suggested - oh and would weigh more as well.
 

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Well I've just finnished putting neons under a mates car so here's the lowdown:

Needed:
Neons (well LED tubes actually) ~about $50 a side.
Switch ~$5 from autobarn
Covered female spade connectors (needed for the switch) ~$3
Male and female bullet connectors ~$6
Electrical tape
Solder
Soldering iron
Trolley jack
Drill
Needle nose pliers
A shitload of cable ties

Process:

Find an entry/exit point between the cars exterior and interior. I found a drain plug in the footwell which is great because they're rubber which means they seal around the wire and its a relatively easy prospect to put a hole in them as opposed to drilling the firewall.

At this point its going to be pertinent to remove a whole lot of trim in my case: floormats, sidesteps, trim under the steering wheel and pull the carpet up.

Knock the rubber plugs out (one on drivers side one on passenger) grab a bit of wood and the drill - knock say a 5mm hole.

Feed the wire from the battery, the drivers side, front and rear neons through the drivers side plug. Just the passenger neon through the other one. Leave these aside for now.

Find somewhere suitable for the switch to go on the piece of trim from under the steering wheel. Drill about a 10mm hole (depending on the switch) Mount switch.

Now its a matter of wiring as follows:

One wire straight from the battery to the drivers side footwell (follow the path of existing wire in the engine bay to avoid it getting cooked, the follow the brake lines before going up through the plug).

Route the power wire to near the fusebox, connect a covered female spade to the wire.

Now run a wire from near the fusebox to where your switch will be - it will need a covered spade on both ends. If the switch is a three blade (eg +, - and ACC) then put a T junction at the switch end of the wire eg the power wire goes into the female spade then out again and into another.

Run the wires for the neons up through the plugs and to the switch twist the positive wires (all four of them) together and chuck a female spade on the end.

Twist the negatives togther and attatch them to a good ground.

Now using ingenuity, cable ties and tube clamps attatch the lights under the car. Run it up on the jack for ease of access. On my mates lancer I found the easiest way of doing the sides was to unscrew (one at a time) the screws holding the sideskirt on and use the screws to hold the tube clib thingies on.

Now its just a matter of plugging everything togther and putting the trim back in.

Chuck a 10A fuse (or as low as you can get away with) into the two female connectors in the power wire (near the fuse box). Plug the wiring into the switch.

Power it up to make sure evrything is working.

Now try and remember how to put all the trim back in.

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Total time: probably a day - an afternoon if you knew what you were doing.
Total cost: say $250 which covers parts and leaves room to spare (and add to that in my mates situation a case of strongbow dry for my labour).
Net effect: looks better than I thought it would, abit ricey but still fairly tasteful (unlike say a garish pink paintjob and 19" chromies).
 

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Shell said:
cant help ya mate... i would never ever consider putting neons on/under my car. they look like such shit.
ya, agreed, please dont.

but anyhoo, GL with it, and remember the only real point to havng neons, as stated, is for shows. IE autosalon, where a judging category is "illumination" = neons etc.
 

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Thanks for the writeup loquasagacious, you've managed to convince me to put off my plan on neons until I find someone else to do it. This whole removing trim thing... sounds rather messy.

Anyhow, for the time being, I think I'll look at other things I can do... I wanted to do colour tint on the windows but then someone told me it's illegal and can thus get me fined just for having it. *sigh* Is there anything which looks nice, which we can actually modify without legal repurcussions!?

(ps. don't shoot me 'coz i can't spell repurcussions properly)
 
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if youre after something cheap and easy, try installing some new HIL light bulbs into your headlights. they have a blue tinge to them when you look at the headlights (as in my avatar) but give out white light
 

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Hmm things to do:

HIL bulbs
mags
lowering
tints (the degree of tint is the concern here - basically though the 'tinter' won't tint you illegally - from memory 65% tint is maximum legal)
Body kit
 

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Body Kit i'm not sure about since it might get spoiled if i drive a bit.. rough.. but the bulbs thing- i am really interested in. Is that the kind of thing they have in Honda Odyssey? Any idea of pricing?

As for tints- is it at all possible to do other colours? like green or yellow? i've seen them on cars parked at the tinting shop but wasn't sure if it's legit to drive.
 

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Hmm. You can get metallic tints, which have a yellow-green-blue tinge that changes with sunlight. Looks better on newer cars, though.
 
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seremify007 said:
Body Kit i'm not sure about since it might get spoiled if i drive a bit.. rough.. but the bulbs thing- i am really interested in. Is that the kind of thing they have in Honda Odyssey? Any idea of pricing?

As for tints- is it at all possible to do other colours? like green or yellow? i've seen them on cars parked at the tinting shop but wasn't sure if it's legit to drive.
the ones on the odyssey are HID lightbulbs (i think) and theyll need a completely different installation and cost a lot more. around $1500-$2000 (?)

but if you get the HIL bulbs, theyll only set you back $55 from autobarn.
the ones i have are the 'Philips Blue Vision' bulbs. you can also get the Philips Crystal Vision (~$90) and Diamond Vision for a bit more but they arent street legal
 

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