Party not Party Leader (1 Viewer)

[patlaw]

I just want to know how many people actually know they aren't voting for Howard or Latham directly, they are voting for Liberal-National or Labor. The party then votes for their party leader. I know, i know that if you vote for Labor you have 99% chance of getting Latham.

In the American they vote for Bush or Kerry as their state government system is very different to ours. We vote for our candidate in each electorate who is endorsed by particular parties and the party that wins the most votes then becomes the government.

Just raising a point that i'm not sure many people are aware of.

 

[ohne]

Well.....I live in the electorate of Werriwa so I could vote for Mark Latham personally. I will not be doing this however, as my first preference will go to independent Sam Bargshoon who is standing against Mark Latham because of his failure to do anything about the Orange Grove shopping centre closing. My second preference will go to the Liberal party with Latham last.

 

[tWiStEdD]

if ALP was to win, but your vote costs Latham his electorate.... does that mean they have to have a different leader? or can the PM not actually hold a seat? -scratches head-... i've always wondered this.

 

[neo o]

They ask someone who won a seat to stand down.

 

[ohne]

Latham has to get elected in his seat to become PM. It is extremely unlikely that the ALP will win the election but Mark Latham lose his seat. If this did happen, I imagine Simon Crean would become PM. You must have a seat in parliament to become a minister.

 

[thorrnydevil]

Latham has to get elected in his seat to become PM. It is extremely unlikely that the ALP will win the election but Mark Latham lose his seat. If this did happen, I imagine Simon Crean would become PM. You must have a seat in parliament to become a minister.

Agreed, but after what happened with Simon Crean I doubt he would get PM. I'd prefer Beazley or Rudd. There the best out of a bad bunch.

 

[leetom]

Agreed, but after what happened with Simon Crean I doubt he would get PM. I'd prefer Beazley or Rudd. There the best out of a bad bunch.

Rudd for Foreign Minister! Rudd's the best.

Can you actually bring yourself to say that you like Downer?

 

[thorrnydevil]

Rudd for Foreign Minister! Rudd's the best.

Can you actually bring yourself to say that you like Downer?

Rudd just seems very genuine and a great all round guy. If I could choose anyone for the PM out of the Labor Party it would be him.

Whats wrong with Downer?

 

[leetom]

in terms of labor men...i always felt that Crean was a 'good labor man'...i always liked him...beazley was exceptionally great andf so intellectual and SHOULD have been PM but howard played the race card...

Crean was good, the poor guy just wasn't a leader. Beazly is the best, he knows Howard for the dirty politician he is, and Howard knows it.

'He has a diminished view about the about the character of Australian society, a very constricted, unambitious view of the capacity of this country internationally. He's devisive in dealing with working Australians; he's set his face against elements of reconciliation; he's struggled to diminish the emphasis in this country on us being a multicultural society. All these sorts of things, which most Australians live cheerfully with, he has sought to undermine.'

Beazley on Howard, from SMH 3 November 2001

 

[thorrnydevil]

Downer has always been 'the idiot son of aristocracy'...failed as liberal leader...likes wearing fishnet stockings...

Kevin Rudd would fail as leader because he comes across as weak...a little man who is overtly intellectual and not in touch...he isnt...the leader of the ALP has to almost alwats come from the NSW or victoria

Likes wearing fishnet stockings...right.

 

[thorrnydevil]

oh here we go...Mungo is pretty accurate

http://www.echonews.com/948/politics.html

OK, I didn't know that...thanks for filling me in. I guess all pollies have there little secrets. Well I guess this isn't really a secret.

 

[thorrnydevil]

Besides, as it said in the first link, he was only wearing them to help the local industry!

 

[thorrnydevil]

i bloody hope so

and what industry stereotypically wears fishnets?

So do I, so do I.

This man works with foreign diplomats and leaders. I hope they don't have any "After negotiation parties" in the near future.

 

[ohne]

Downer has always been 'the idiot son of

Here we go again, the fee payer from Asquith on the north shore lecturing us about aristocracy.

 

[Nick]

Whats wrong with Downer?

he just puts a bit of a downer on everything

 

[thorrnydevil]

he just puts a bit of a downer on everything

haha...no pun intended I'm sure!

 

[ohne]

1. Not a fee payer

2. Not from the north shore...asquith is hardly north shore... its far north...

3. my dad is an electrician...my mum is a school cleaner...very aristocratic :uhhuh:

house prices in Asquith/Hornsby are not high compared to the rest of the north shore sydney...

On a sidenote have you seen the latest ALP commercial criticising local fee paying students as 'queue jumpers'? Do you think this is a fair description for those who work hard and are determined to still get in after missing a HECS place?

So much for 'ladder of opportunity'. The ALPs policies seem more like class warfare than anything else.

 

[thorrnydevil]

On a sidenote have you seen the latest ALP commercial criticising local fee paying students as 'queue jumpers'? Do you think this is a fair description for those who work hard and are determined to still get in after missing a HECS place?

So much for 'ladder of opportunity'. The ALPs policies seem more like class warfare than anything else.

No I haven't seen that one yet, but have you seen the one saying "Taking the pressure OFF families?" This is coming from a party who is trying to improve education. You would think that they would use the proper language eg. "Taking the pressure FROM families"

They should remember FROM a PERSON, OFF a THING.

 

[ohne]

Are they trying to improve education? It seems to me they are just trying to victimise hard working members of the community for political gain.

 

[thorrnydevil]

Are they trying to improve education? It seems to me they are just trying to victimise hard working members of the community for political gain.

Yeah, that too!!!