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I want to transfer to another course in another faculty. I am a first year student. Should I stick with my course and transfer at the end of the year? or drop out and apply at the end of the year again? (I really want to avoid dropping out) I cannot transfer at the beginning of spring semester can I? because first years are half way through first year... haha, is that correct?
Please anyone give me ANY advice on transferring because I have no idea on how to go about it or the best possible way.
Thankyou so so much in advance.
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Is it competitive to transfer from like... design to writing? what are the odds of a successful transfer? Must I get outstanding results to be considered?
 

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Is it competitive to transfer from like... design to writing? what are the odds of a successful transfer? Must I get outstanding results to be considered?
Um, if I remember correctly, they don't look at what course your marks are from, rather they look at how good they are. So a BA student with a C avge would have many more transfer options than a MBBS.BA student with a P avge.

If you got in, you'd definitely have to start in first year again though - since all of first year communications is mandatory. Having done those design subjects might mean you can get away with doing less or no electives in second and third year of the writing & cultural studies degree as well, which might mean you could take up a full time job in the later years.

Um, and I have no idea on the odds of a transfer - just get the best marks you can now I guess. Also make sure that the writing degree is really what you want - you don't want to transfer and suddenly find out you liked design better...so maybe you should try doing some research into the degree as well.

Also, this thread is a really good read if you're interested in transferring.
 
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Yes well I'm not too sure yet... but just want to be aware on my mobility (like in regards to degrees) and all.
I don't mind doing first year... I'm not even 18 yet so some of the kids in year 12 now will be older than me (I started school early early) haha.
My UAI was very very much higher than the cut offs for writing... will they take my UAI into consideration still supposing as it must go through UAC?
You do writing and cultures, don't you? at UTS? what's it like? people? subjects? teachers? proportion of males to females kind of thing?
I know about the risk of transferring and then regretting it, so I'm taking it slow. I'll decide at the end of the year...but either way I needed to do design first to get an insight to my future... I needed to experiment. Who knows I might even stay... like I said I just want to know my options and the procedures.
 

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They will still take your UAI into consideration I believe[like 50/50 i think], you might also have the option of submitting a personal statement as well.

As for communications [writing & cultural studies]...

In first year, your studies will be divided up into four areas:
  • Communications and Media type stuff - basically study how the media interacts with our society, culture and life. For example, Rupert Murdoch's monopoly on news allowing him to influence public affairs and politics. An apt way of describing the area, if you have done the relevant module in English Advanced, would be 'Frontline on steroids'. I actually find its sorta interesting, but I can't wait for second year when I don't need to do this stuff anymore.
  • Sociopolitical studies - this is essentially regarding the social policies of our nation and how they affect the individual. For example, aboriginal rights and access to power and benefits or gay marriage and adoption rights. There is also an online component to this area. Hate this one - completely, alot of the others seem to enjoy it though.
  • Cultural studies - this will provide the groundwork for one of your majors. It essentially is about investigating cultural texts and phenomena in a contemporary environment. The lectures are interesting, and so is the reading content but it is an extreme bitch to actually study.
  • Writing - this is the beginning of your other major. It involves studying the various ways and forms of writing. For example in one week we might analyse poetry and compose multiple stanzas and in another we might discuss genre writing. A good way to think of it, is to pretend that each week is another extra ee1 module. This area also closely resembles english extension 2 in its assessments in that we have a major work and a journal that we must submit and I'd say the majority of writing students did english extension 2 for their hsc, but its definitely not a prerequisite. Also, this class isn't in lecture/tute form - they just deliver 'seminars' which are rather like ordinary classes. Oh, and I love this part of the course.:D

There are no electives in first year, however in second and third year you only do 3 subjects a semester, 2 of which are your majors[writing, and cultural studies]. The third subject can either be a free elective from the humanities faculty which includes single semester units on Genocide Studies, Psychology and a proffessional internship as well as several subjects in aboriginal studies. You also have the choice of taking an arts elective from any of the other universities to make up this third subject each semester.

This structure will of course change if you do say Law or International Studies in combination. I think with International Studies all of your free communications electives go toward your language and then in the fourth year you study overseas. Whereas when combining with Law, you will recieve only 1 or 2 electives in the entire course and you would progress more slowly through the communications component[i think]. If you do Honours, you will enter in a fourth year of communications which would involve writing an extensive work and pretty much nothing but that.

Regarding workload and assessments, the workload is quite high - there are 14 assessments in a semester[12 weeks a semester + 2 weeks holiday] including 4 or so major work type projects [1 for each subject]. This means however that there are no exams whatsoever, and you also gain additional holidays but it is at the cost of a higher workload. It's still quite manageable though.

Regarding the students themselves, you'll find there are 600+ communications students in first year and that you'll be sharing all the same subjects apart from writing(which only writing and cultural people do). The candidature is also overwhelmingly in the female arena, with over 80% of students that I've met so far being girls. Most students are also younger - there are maybe 4 mature age students that I've even seen in the lectures.

Most of the people are friendly but there isn't much to do on the campus itself as you've probably noticed so its not like MQ/UNSW/USYD where you all hang out in the quadrangle or cafeteria during breaks and this ends up with alot of people pretty much just scurrying off 'somewhere'.

Um, the tutors are pretty much a mixed bag I think - for example 1 of my tutors bores me to tears, another is a total dragon and the other 2 are fairly laid back and helpful.

If there's anything else you want to know, feel free to ask.:)
 

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wow, that was very insightful. thanks so much. Oh, I did Frontline, and really liked it.
Yes, I was one of those english students at school.
Do you study novels? say like Module B in advanced english kind of thing? is that slightly what you mean by 'cultural texts'?
Sociopolitical studies would not appeal at all to me I don't think/// but I have looked over the degree and year 2 and 3 there is much more freedom.
Don't mind me asking, but why did you choose writing? like what would be your interpretation of the 'ideal' career, in your case?
Hhhhmmm... it all sounds so like what I used to do at school (like the disciplinary subjects).
I know what you mean about the 'scrurrying off somehere', though the design faculty has its own cafeteria kind of thing.
Postgraduate courses ... for example, masters in creative writing...would it only be applicable if you did a course in the communications? that seems like the normality, yeah?
what kinds of assessments do you currently have in writing? is there a great deal for freedom of self-expression or more of a constrainment? I guess first year is kind of like that though. all first years.
THANKYOOOU FOR EVERYTHING!!! I know I'm a pest. peacee.
 

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wow, that was very insightful. thanks so much. Oh, I did Frontline, and really liked it.
Yes, I was one of those english students at school.
Do you study novels? say like Module B in advanced english kind of thing? is that slightly what you mean by 'cultural texts'?
Sociopolitical studies would not appeal at all to me I don't think/// but I have looked over the degree and year 2 and 3 there is much more freedom.
Don't mind me asking, but why did you choose writing? like what would be your interpretation of the 'ideal' career, in your case?
Hhhhmmm... it all sounds so like what I used to do at school (like the disciplinary subjects).
I know what you mean about the 'scrurrying off somehere', though the design faculty has its own cafeteria kind of thing.
Postgraduate courses ... for example, masters in creative writing...would it only be applicable if you did a course in the communications? that seems like the normality, yeah?
what kinds of assessments do you currently have in writing? is there a great deal for freedom of self-expression or more of a constrainment? I guess first year is kind of like that though. all first years.
THANKYOOOU FOR EVERYTHING!!! I know I'm a pest. peacee.
Cultural studies is nothing like module B, cultural texts would be say a house wife's apron or a greek peach or any symbol that has cultural meaning. Even your nail clippers.

I chose writing mainly because I just like to write - I did at one stage consider journalism but that seemed less enjoyable and I wasn't sure I'd do as well in it as creative writing. As for the 'ideal' career in writing? Well one in which I get money while submitting something I'd be proud to write - its pretty difficult to get a job in this industry. Which is why I'm heavily considering in taking some proffesional editing/writing courses at TAFE to supplement this course in second and third year, I'll also probably be taking a DipEd as well so that I have a secure income while I'm working on my writing.

With postgrad courses, they are a bit more specialised then the undergrad ones, for example there are degrees in radio and creative arts and whatnot at that level. I assume that you go from your undergrad strand into a related postgrad specialisation, but I'm not sure.

In writing, there are a few assessments:
  • A class presentation on a given readings topic e.g poetry, genre, narrative, scriptwriting etc.
  • A portfolio of writing exercises undertaken in the first 5/6 weeks, basically involves experimenting with various types of writing and so on.
  • A journal which gets marked. Sounds fairly similar to Ext 2 English, except its graded.
  • A major work in basically any written medium. Its also required that we workshop our major works in class. And we can write about pretty much any topic and in any medium for this.
 
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Oh, I get the whole cultural thing now.
It sounds exciting. i'll see how I go. give it time...a year.
Thankyou!!!
 

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