practicals-what do we need 2 know? (1 Viewer)

[freaking_out]

hey, in physics what do we need to know of all the pracs...??? for example what should i know 4 da following dot point:

"perform an investigation and gather first hand information to observe the occurrence of different striation patterns for different pressures in discharge tubes."

 

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yea....but thats theory stuff

wat u mean by practical i think when they ask u in exams to perform a prac...u use wat u've done

 

[freaking_out]

well for this specific practical dot point...what am i expected to know for the trials???

 

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i can give u a tip...

ur not reading the right experiment...

thats all i'll offer

 

[Huy]

Everyone is asking me this, or at least, everyone wants to know that!

Think about it for a second,
The people who have already done the exams, came in cold turkey. They did not know the questions beforehand.

I'm not saying this to attack you or anything, but just think about the other people who have had to receive "lower" marks while you reap the benefits of having "insider knowledge". This will upset a few people (who are probably here just to find out information, what's in the exam, what not to study, what to avoid, etc), but it's true. People are only cheating themselves if they allow it to happen, and for those of who you have already sat for the exam, what will you gain from telling others what was in the trial?

I'm just a little worried about the entire 'integrity' of the trial system, now that everybody is able to:

1. skip the exam, take a sicky, visit the doctor's
2. stay home, browse the net, read boredofstudies
3. re-schedule their exam for X number of days after the exam
4. pretend that they've already sat for the exam, asking others who have honestly sat for the exam, things such as "what did you think of the short answer?"
5. going into the exam, a week later, knowing the content of the examination inside and out, and blowing away any integrity what-so-ever that the trial once had.

I'll get off my soapbox, but let's keep things fair, please. I don't mind if people talk about it, but it's the ones who ask specifically about "Question 5(c) Part (ii)" and what the answers were, the contents of the exam and the usual "What do I need to know" that gets to me.

 

[freaking_out]

alright i'll put it another way.... what do i meant to know for this THEORY dot point????:mad1:

 

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about the density of the gas affects the color it comes out...(i think) or different element gas gives out differnt frequency too

its in jarcaranda i think

 

[freaking_out]

hey huy,

i swear i am not doing what u think i am. my school is doing the independent paper, and i was just making up notes for my dot points and i just wanted to know about practicals in general and this dot point...how to cover it.. if i really wanted to get the catholic paper i could have got it right now coz schools have handed it out already....but i am not doing the catholic but now i am just revising...i hope u understand.

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by freaking_out
i swear i am not doing what u think i am...i hope u understand.

I wasn't directly referring to you freaking_out. Although this is your thread, it may seem like it, but it was just in response to the *huge* number of requests, even emails from people from boredofstudies, as well as sudden requests for my ICQ/MSN.

It's unusual, but I'm sorry if I sounded a little paranoid about it, (maybe it's because I am) but tooheyz in the other physics cssa thread made very valid points about putting others at an advantage, etc.

Sorry if it seemed as though I was "out to get you"

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

lol the competition has heated up and ppl are playing hard balls

does every1 here do the same trials like neap/independent?

and i thought u arent supposed to do a delayed trial newayz, but just get other makrs scaled up to fit the percentage *shrugs*

and i think freaking out is asking what is required for that dot point as opposed 2 whether it is in a particular trial paper. for pracs you are supposed to know the procedure including its reliability and validity, though not necessarily its results - basically the theory behind it. also you may require to interpret results.

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Huy
I wasn't directly referring to you freaking_out. Although this is your thread, it may seem like it, but it was just in response to the *huge* number of requests, even emails from people from boredofstudies, as well as sudden requests for my ICQ/MSN.

It's unusual, but I'm sorry if I sounded a little paranoid about it, (maybe it's because I am) but tooheyz in the other physics cssa thread made very valid points about putting others at an advantage, etc.

Sorry if it seemed as though I was "out to get you"

i think you should make a new thread and put ya message there...so more people will see it...anyway i think that schools should set their own exams...or otherwise, the companies (eg. catholic) should make two or three papers for each subject per year, so that kids who had sickies etc. will just be given another paper (if u get what i mean).

 

[freaking_out]

oh, yeah...just a general note about cheating...u can never completely eradicate it...trust me, in my school (when i was doing the paper) , kids were actually cheating in their school certificates (and i heard for the hsc) by taking mobiles and using sms and also hiding notes etc..i was shocked!!!!

 

[Rahul]

it can be very annoying, esp when ppl here might be from ur school....

 

[Dash]

Ok i get the idea rahul

 

[Rahul]

wasnt totally directed at u dash, it happening with other ppl too....

 

[Huy]

Yes Rahul is right.
I had people asking me about all sorts of CSSA papers.

e.g. English Paper 2, a week after I did it?
IPT, days after the state had completed it?
Physics (OMG I won't even start)

And about the cheating, people have been taking notes into the exam, cheating, and/or going to the "toilet" to cheat. Far out that annoys the living *beep* out of me.

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

Huy! Huy! Huy!

Whats the question in this years CSSA English 2 paper?????

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by Constip8edSkunk
Huy! Huy! Huy!

Whats the question in this years CSSA English 2 paper?????

 

[underthesun]

Back the the topic, they can always ask how you did the experiment you performed. That sucks.

Then again, they can always ask you how to improve the reliability of the experiements. That sucks too.

They also require you to know the variables, and what needs to be controlled. That suck even more.

The experiments also counts towards your assessment itself, so you had to write it good. That sucks the most.

Conclusion? Experiments sucks.

 

[Ragerunner]

its rare they ask for a procedure on how to do something.

i don't think i've seen a paper with something like that ?