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[guesswho]

hsc/uai

Hey, I'm in year 12 now but I've done my hsc for maths ext. 1 in 2002 and I got in the low 90's which was the highest in my school.
I want to repeat and get higher but I'm unsure if my school will affect my mark- ie my school will pull me down and the highest mark I can get is what I got. Can you give me any info or advice?

 

[Ultimate]

Re: hsc/uai

Originally posted by guesswho
Hey, I'm in year 12 now but I've done my hsc for maths ext. 1 in 2002 and I got in the low 90's which was the highest in my school.
I want to repeat and get higher but I'm unsure if my school will affect my mark- ie my school will pull me down and the highest mark I can get is what I got. Can you give me any info or advice?

I was in a similar situation to you. In 2001 I did the HSC for maths and maths ext 1 and scored HSC marks of 97 and 95 respectively.

In 2002, i completed my other subjects and thought about repeating 3 unit but didn't, it isn't really worth it, better to spend time in other subjects. Also I could spend more time in 4 unit, ended up getting 92 for that as a HSC mark.

If u want to repeat, as long as u are ranked first then u won't be affected by your school's performance in the HSC exam. But if u repeat your latest attempt will be included in the calculation of your UAI.

 

[kini mini]

I concur with Ultimate

(Anyone else seen Catch Me If You Can ? )

 

[guesswho]

Thanks for the advice, ultimate.
I think I'll concentrate on my other subjects first and if I'm doing the best that I can in them, then I might repeat my ext 1, because I've only got 8 more units to complete.

 

[t-i-m-m-y]

Originally posted by guesswho
Thanks for the advice, ultimate.
I think I'll concentrate on my other subjects first and if I'm doing the best that I can in them, then I might repeat my ext 1, because I've only got 8 more units to complete.

good luck

 

[Twintip]

Ultimate, can I ask how you went in your other subjects to get your UAI of 98.5?

 

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by Twintip
Ultimate, can I ask how you went in your other subjects to get your UAI of 98.5?

Here are my HSC results (avg of exam and assessment):

English Advanced: 88/100 Band 5
Chemistry: 90/100 Band 6
Physics: 87/100 Band 5
Maths Ext 1: 95/100 (2001) band E4
Maths Ext 2: 91/100 band E4

IPT: 88/100 Band 5 (didn't count in calc of UAI)

 

[nerdd]

wow you did so well!
chemistry.. argh i'm so scared of that hsc exam for that...
the 4 unit one doesn't look too hard (having only done 2 of the topics lol)
the 3 unit one that i've seen looked scary.. grr

 

[t-i-m-m-y]

Originally posted by Ultimate


Here are my HSC results (avg of exam and assessment):

English Advanced: 88/100 Band 5
Chemistry: 90/100 Band 6
Physics: 87/100 Band 5
Maths Ext 1: 95/100 (2001) band E4
Maths Ext 2: 91/100 band E4

IPT: 88/100 Band 5 (didn't count in calc of UAI)

hey i reckon i could score those marks to: from prelim my marks in lazseeker puts me around 96. if i improve by about 5 in everything its puts me in 99+

 

[kini mini]

Originally posted by t-i-m-m-y


hey i reckon i could score those marks to: from prelim my marks in lazseeker puts me around 96. if i improve by about 5 in everything its puts me in 99+

You can't use prelim marks, and I don't think you should use marks at all really. Percentiles are rather easier to estimate. After all, when you estimate you say to yourself "I know I'm not at the top (for most of us...), but I think I'm in this level of the group, I think this corresponds to such-and-such percentile. putting marks in is adding another source of error because you don't know what the mark distribution was like inthe course.

Estimating using percentiles I got within .05 of my UAI, happily the error was in the right direction .

 

[jm1234567890]

my teacher also sujested that repeating y12 is a bad idea
just repeat y11 if you did bad in y11

i got 97 3u 96 4u 90 phy

 

[Mill]

I disagree with Ultimate actually. I was accelerated in maths and physics in 2001. Got 47 in 3u maths and 95 in 2u maths. Decided the 3u mark was crap and redid it with 4u maths in 2002. Ended up with 97 for a 3u mark which was definitely better. 4u maths has 3u included in it, so if you're doing 4u you may as well do 3u too because you will sure as hell do better in 3u if your a 4u student.

 

[Rahul]

Originally posted by Mill
so if you're doing 4u you may as well do 3u too because you will sure as hell do better in 3u if your a 4u student.

dont u have to do 3u before u can do 4u...i think u meant if ur doin 3u u may aswell do 4u.

 

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by Mill
I disagree with Ultimate actually. I was accelerated in maths and physics in 2001. Got 47 in 3u maths and 95 in 2u maths. Decided the 3u mark was crap and redid it with 4u maths in 2002. Ended up with 97 for a 3u mark which was definitely better. 4u maths has 3u included in it, so if you're doing 4u you may as well do 3u too because you will sure as hell do better in 3u if your a 4u student.

But in 2001, you had the advantage of the "bonus scaling" so a mark of 94 in 3 unit for 2001 (if u do 4 unit) would become a scaled mark of 95.5 or something, whereas a mark of 97 in 2002 in 3 unit would be scaled to something like 94-95, so the difference in terms of scaled marks was very marginal.

This was the primary reason I didn't repeat because I figured there was nor real gain in terms of scaled marks.