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There has been discussions that jurors should be involved in the sentencing processs.

I am totally against it..........Seriously most ppple are so fucking dumb...and total cowards...they dont deserve to judge anyone. They dont know anything about the laws etc...........they shouldnt b emaking important decisions.

i read at articule on the weeekend...i think....it said like betweeen 10 and 20% of pple charged with murder in nsw or australia....are later acquited...or whatever......

and typically serve between like 12 and 18 months in jail......wiating for their acquital............and are not entitled to compensation.

i think the government also passsed a law... saying that.........prisoners are not entitled to sue the government for injuries sustained in jail.. unless they are relatively serious.. like a 20% disability.. i think that means if you get raped in jail....or bashed.....but recoever..................u dont get a cent... what about pychological damage and shit????????/ the government is fucked....

we have a justice system....focusing on punishment and responsibility.........but then the government fucks up........they want to be excempt from responsibility....

People get into fights etc....bash the shit out of someone..and are inprisoned..u should have a right to defend urself using excessive force...............u should have the right to keeep kicking ppple in the head...until they are unconscious........why should u knock them to the flooor...and let them get up..and have another turn............................. our laws are bull shit.


if you serve 1 year in jail....................and are found innocent............u deserve $1,000,000.....

Also if a jury..finds..someone guilty............and later they are shown to be innnocent................the jury should be penalised.............there should be consequences for ruining someones life.


what do you think of lettting jurors...making decisions relating to sentencing?

what do you think of letting ppple who were locked up for a year....and then being found not guilty.........being entitled to large amounts of compensation?
 

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lol i always love reading ur posts even if i totally disagree
u crack me up
but yeah its pretty whacked..our system and stuff
 

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Blast!, i thought this thread was about you fixing up your sentences :/

Ah well, life is life
 

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Li0n said:
Blast!, i thought this thread was about you fixing up your sentences :/

Ah well, life is life
I think we need such a thread. My eyes are bleeding after reading that.
 

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tattoodguy said:
i read at articule on the weeekend...i think....it said like betweeen 10 and 20% of pple charged with murder in nsw or australia....are later acquited...or whatever......
i think you need some help with your sentencing

AHAHAHA
 

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is my sentence structure really that bad ppple?


you should have ur sentence reduced or be given money if you are assulted in jail.


Our system is bs though..........i think the population in jails has doubled in the past 10 years or something..... its a huge waste of resources...

Jail is meant to be as a last resort -----

unlesss u commmit voilent unprovoked attacks on strangers ----------- 99% of the time u shoudl be given a second or even third or forth chance.

If you steal a few things ---ur a fucking shit head...but u dont deserve to go to jail the first couple of times u do it....

If you possess drugs etc....or even supply drugs ................ur a parasite....but u shouldnt be inprisoned for it.

Prison is a very extreme punishment...and shouldnt be the only mechanism we have for dealing with criminals..

good behaviour bonds and fines etc.....are much more appropriate sentences for non serious ..non voilent criminals.

the government and judges.. try and out do each other by giving harsher and harsher sentences... Its a fucking massive waste of money.
Huge amounts of police resources are wasted on petty crimes, police having to do all the paper work and having to spend days in court......................all the money wasted... having ppple in jail....

Its a stupid system. If someone admits their guilty over a petty crime.....give them a fine or something on the spot...................and forget about it...

Why waste $50,000 a year of jail, all the legal and administrative costs of court etc................over trivial bull shit crimes....



Does anyone know the case behind phong ngo??? who killled the john newman guy??????????? from the facts i read........................
Isnt it the case that they never found the actually killlers...but they stilll put that ngo go in jail for life on conspiracy to murder charges?

If that is the case--------it doesnt seeem beyond all reasonable doubt to me.

I think jurors are dumb bastards-----they rely on gut feeelings and other things.. i dont think the whole beyond all reasonable doubt is enforced ------------and thats why heaps of pppple are inprisoned who are innnocent and its bull shit...




Also the police/courts give incentives to dob ppple in? can someone be inprisoned based solely on the testimony of a criminal? or does their need to be other evidence?
 

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Argonaut said:
You can legally still do that in Uragruy provided both duellers are registered blood donors.
hahaha

I don't know HOW you came by that information
 

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tattoodguy said:
I am totally against it..........Seriously most ppple are so fucking dumb...
Tell me about it.




People get into fights etc....bash the shit out of someone..and are inprisoned..u should have a right to defend urself using excessive force...............u should have the right to keeep kicking ppple in the head...until they are unconscious........why should u knock them to the flooor...and let them get up..and have another turn............................. our laws are bull shit.
Oh I can see this one working real well. Guy taps me on shoulder, so I turn around and stab him through the eye into his brain and kill him.

How clever, we could all kill eachother for no good reason.



Blast!, i thought this thread was about you fixing up your sentences :/

Ah well, life is life
I honestly thought so aswell. His formatting is horrid.
 

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i agree with most of what tattoodguy said.....
however the part about compo for ppl who r "psychologically" harmed from jail n stuff is just a tad hypocritical.... what about the people that the criminals have harmed psychologically? huh? especially pedofiles. who gives a shit what happens to pedofiles while they are in jail. bash the shit out of them, rape them.... who gives a shit, they don't deserve an ounce of sympathy from anyone, ever.
 

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breaking ur a very cold hearted person. :)

alot of pedofiles have pychological problems...and are often victims of pedofiles themselves...There twisted sick fuckers..but like its not always their fault.

Sure its a rather disgusting fetish or whatever.......but they still deserve some basic rights and protections......thats why we have regulations etc.

Those dick heads who were harrasing that......pedofile recently should be arrested.. some of them anyways.



We should protect ppple in jail....its about responsibillity. making ppple accountable for their actions and the harm they cause to society. and the government should set an example...



Its a bull shit system. What about rehabilitation...........sending ppple to jail...often makes ppple worse....It does more harm than good in alot of cases..and should be used for its intended purpose ------------------ a punishment as a last resort. The governmetn is rorting this system for cheap political points...

We have heaps of decent and innocent ppple in jail.


The government has no right to alllow ppple to be bashed in jail..and then expect them to come out.....and be decent human beings.

besides a very large portion of criminals in jail.........have never hurt a person in their life.

white collar crimes, break and enters, traffic offenses, drugs etc.....possessing a firearm etc etc... These ppple have done hardly any thing wrong......most of the time...and.............deserve pretty much the same freeedoms and protections as the rest of us....


Everyone fucks up here and there....people should be given a few chancces.


The government punishes ppple to teach them responsibility............yet it doesnt live up to its responsibilities............including protecting ppple in jail........or
Like the iraq war, we went to war for false reasons resulting in murders and so forth --------------yet politicans are not in jail...
But if we kill ppple and we have goood reasons to do so....we are locked up for 25 years or something.

The government needs to be made accountable.............not just the citizens.
 

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alot of things are fucked up tattoo guy
but what can ya do
run for something become a politician and change it?
if it bugs you soo much?
 

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also --- i would be less sympathetic to absolute scum bags like gang rapists .... pedofiles, and others who are voilent towards ppple for no reason... but even they should still be protected....

But im pretty sure the vast majjority of prisoners are decent ppple on pettty charges, and many of those on serious charges,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,assults etc have really goood reasons for committing their crimes.

We shouldnt have the attitude that most criminals are scum bags......cos im very confident...its only a very small minority.

The government ...did they threaten to send that old digger to jail for putting up his flag? There are lots of good hearted decent ppple in there and they should be protected.
 

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tattoodguy said:
soha? if i run for prime minister will u vote for me?
lol..well im not bothered about alot of things you believe in..
and you would probably kick all immigrants out etc
so i dunno..depends..
but yeah..you seem like a very dedicated and devoted believer
plus..i'll vote for anyone..its all rigged no matter what
 

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