so by the same reasoning, why do we need university degrees for the bachelor of business and finance? I mean, there are resources available in the internet and in libraries you could teach yourself!~Korn said:Do its not i dont find it interesting, shit its just that u can learn this shit without going to uni, like u got the internet and books, u dont really need to do a degree for it. Anyways how does one do a teaching dip
Because who is going to hire a business person, that requires a degree, if they aint got one, if u wanna learn something just for saying i learnt this, its unfair on the Australian Taxpayers, unless ur paying full-fees, and who can actually afford to go to uni for essentially fun these days.inasero said:so by the same reasoning, why do we need university degrees for the bachelor of business and finance? I mean, there are resources available in the internet and in libraries you could teach yourself!~
by that reasoning what if someone wanted to progress higher in some kind of theological field.. like if they are a teacher.. or wanting to be a youth minister or pastoral care leader or something like that..Korn said:A Masters allows one to progress higher into their chosen field
Thats all good and well if they are going to use their degree and get payed for it, but if they are going to sit there on their high horse and glote about having a theological degree while recieving a doll cheque, well thats abit rich...hey thats what an arts degree is for..der!cro_angel said:by that reasoning what if someone wanted to progress higher in some kind of theological field.. like if they are a teacher.. or wanting to be a youth minister or pastoral care leader or something like that..
yay someone mentioned avondale college! except i don't think they have cert IV theology... they do have a four-year BA (theo), 2-year graduate diploma (theo) and various theology Masters programs though.beccaxx said:a certificate in theology is good. heck doing a BA is not so well recognised now so why do it? part of the reason is cos they wanna learn!!!!!!!
a certificate 4 in theology at avondale college or hillsong international college or many of them r a good way for *religious* ppl to learn more about that which they have devoted their life to. and to b a priest u may not have had to do it, but i know that to become a pastor in the ACC churches, (or AOG) that u should hav some theology training. if they r gonna run a church, u want them to know wat they r doing, just like if a doctor is gonna prescribe somethin 4 u u would rather they had the qualifications neccessary
Exactly. The idea behind university is for higher learning, not what you will use that education for. You can have several PhD's across many fields, but it doesn't mean you'll choose the high paying research job over the high school teaching position.natstar said:Remember going to uni is not always about getting a job. Many people go there to get an education in something they are interested in.
actually, priests (as in Catholic) tend to hold 2 or 3 degrees that are done in conjuction with seminarian training. They do need a UAI or equivalent to get in to these institutions. (given that a lot of Aussie catholic priests for eg goto ACU or do their training O/S eg Notre Dame)cro_angel said:you dont actually need a uai to become a priest.. that is done in a seminary not through a university.
i dont think it really occurred to you that people may actually be interested in learning more about theology and arent just getting the degree for financial gain, but it is likely that it wont be the only thing they ever study (for example they may get a dip ed to be able to teach, or may have previously done a degree and are going back to university to advance their knowledge).
just because you dont find it interesting doesnt mean everyone shares your views
Actually cro=angel is correct in this, as priests dont need to have a theology degree (yes Catholics)snapperhead said:actually, priests (as in Catholic) tend to hold 2 or 3 degrees that are done in conjuction with seminarian training. They do need a UAI or equivalent to get in to these institutions. (given that a lot of Aussie catholic priests for eg goto ACU or do their training O/S eg Notre Dame)
Even with Protestant ministers, they still do Uni degrees (or certificates) in conjunction with their religious training (eg Moore College @ UNSW)
and not everyone who has done theology wants to be a priest...
*looks at his M.RE hanging on the wall which had a 1/3 theology weighting*
lol
I didnt mention theology neither did she...Korn said:Actually cro=angel is correct in this, as priests dont need to have a theology degree (yes Catholics)