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Does USYD offer some sort of non-award study in maths/a Dip Sci or something to students who study there? There's no mention of anything other than bachelor programs on their web site.

I don't really want to do a combined science degree (I HATE physics, chemistry, etc...)

Thanks.
 
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You can do individual maths subjects. I dont think theres a non bachelor program. Why would you have to do a combined science degree to do maths?
 

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Looking to do 48CP or such in it...
Just wondering what to do if I do a 3 yr BA and run out of CP. Lib Studies is out thanks to language requirement.
 

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You can actually major in maths in the USyd BA. It's an alternate list subject and I think up to 60cp of the 144 can be put into maths.
 

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David_O said:
Does USYD offer some sort of non-award study in maths/a Dip Sci or something to students who study there? There's no mention of anything other than bachelor programs on their web site.

I don't really want to do a combined science degree (I HATE physics, chemistry, etc...)

Thanks.
You can do a combined sci where you dont have to touch anything but maths...
 

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I'm asking this q in case I find myself in a situation where I want to do MORE than 84 arts CP...
 

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withoutaface said:
You can do a combined sci where you dont have to touch anything but maths...
24CP have to be from at least 2 subjects other than maths/stats.
 

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Science faculty include a huge amount more than just experimental sciences so you dont necessarily have to do physics/chem/bio etc.
 

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24CP have to be from at least 2 subjects other than maths/stats.
Where does it say that?

Joint Resolutions with the Faculties of Engineering and Science (BE/BSc)

Bachelor of Engineering Bachelor of Science combined degree

A student may proceed concurrently to the degrees of Bachelor of Science, Bachelor of Science (Advanced) or Bachelor of Science (Advanced Mathematics) and Bachelor of Engineering. Admission, progression and assessment criteria apply and are described in the resolutions for the BE specialisations shown above.



Students will be under the general supervision of the Faculty of Engineering for administrative matters. The Faculty of Science and the Faculty of Engineering shall jointly exercise authority in any academic matter concerning the combined course not otherwise dealt with in these resolutions.



Units of study must be selected as shown in the Engineering Specialisation Tables for the core components of the chosen Engineering specialisation. Units from the Science Faculty must be chosen as shown in the Science Faculty handbook to meet requirements of a Science major. The Faculty Resolutions (which are reproduced in the Engineering and Science Handbooks, as the case may be) specify:

(a) credit point values;

(b) corequisites/prerequisites/assumed learning/assumed knowledge; and

(c) any special conditions.

Requirements for the BE/BSc pass degree

(1) To qualify for the award of the pass degrees a student shall complete units of study having a total value of at least 240 credit points including:

(a) 96 credit points of units from Science subject areas,

(b) a major in a Science area, and

(c) Units of study as prescribed in the Tables of BE Specialisation Requirements for the specialisation that the student is pursuing.

(2) To qualify for the award of the pass degree in the Advanced or Advanced Mathematics stream of the BSc a student shall in addition to the requirements of resolution 5(1):

(a) complete at least 54 credit points of Intermediate/Senior Science units of study of which at least 36 shall be completed at the Advanced level or as TSP units;

(b) complete at least 24 credit points of Senior Science units of study at theAdvanced level or as TSP units in a single Science subject area; and

(c) maintain in Intermediate and Senior Science units of study an average mark of 65 or greater in each year of enrolment.

Requirements for Honours Degrees

(1) BE with Honours

On completion of the requirements for the combined degrees, a student may qualify for the award of BE degree with Honours in accordance with the requirements set out in the Resolutions of the Faculty of Engineering relating to the BE degree.



(2) BSc with Honours

On completion of the requirements for the combined degrees, a student may be qualified to enrol in Honours in the Bachelor of Science. To qualify for the award of the BSc with Honours, a student must complete successfully an additional year of study (the Honours year), as specified in the Faculty of Science Handbook.



Students may at any stage abandon the combined degree course and elect to complete either a BSc or a BE in accordance with the resolutions governing those degrees



Resolutions covering admission, enrolment restrictions, progression requirements, satisfactory progress, cross-institutional study and assessment criteria for the combined degree are equivalent to those for the BE degree and specialisations, as shown in the Faculty Handbook.



The Deans of the Faculties of Engineering and Science shall jointly exercise authority in any matter concerning the combined degrees not otherwise dealt with in these resolutions.
 

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Degree Pathways website:
BA/BSc
"1. 240 credit points in total


INCLUDING

2. At least 96 credit points from Science subject areas


AND


3. No more than 100 credit points from junior units of study


THESE JUNIOR UNITS MUST INCLUDE

4. At least 12 credit points from units of study in Mathematics and Statistics

AND

5. At least 24 junior credit points from at least two Science subject areas other than Mathematics or Statistics"
 

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He probably means the requirements for the BSc. In the handbook it says:

In the junior year you should complete:
- 12cp from mathematics and statistics
- 24cp from at least two subjects other than math/stats
- 12cp electives from science/arts/economics/engineering... etc.

They state it like a requirement but I don't know how much they enforce the 'should' part.
 

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There's no way most combined students complete 36cp of junior science.:/
 

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You could take psychology and history/philosophy of science or something? If you really dislike science maybe you should consider an a degree which doesn't have BSc in the award name.
 

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KFunk said:
He probably means the requirements for the BSc. In the handbook it says:

In the junior year you should complete:
- 12cp from mathematics and statistics
- 24cp from at least two subjects other than math/stats
- 12cp electives from science/arts/economics/engineering... etc.

They state it like a requirement but I don't know how much they enforce the 'should' part.
You'd need the 24cp to qualify for the degree:

To qualify for the award of the pass degrees in the BA/BSc course
a student shall complete units of study to a total value of at least 240
credit points including:
• at least 96 credit points from Science subject areas;
• at least 12 credit points from the Science subject areas of
Mathematics and Statistics;
• at least 24 credit points of Junior units of study from at least
two Science subject areas other than Mathematics or Statistics;
• no more than 96 credit points from Junior units of study;
• a major in a Science area; and
• at least 72 credit points of Senior units of study in Arts subject
areas, including a major from Part A of the table of undergraduate
units of study in the Faculty of Arts.
 

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KFunk said:
You could take psychology and history/philosophy of science or something? If you really dislike science maybe you should consider an a degree which doesn't have BSc in the award name.
It's not so much that I dislike science as much as I can't justify spending 4 years in a row at summer school to avoid finishing a bachelor's degree at the age of 30... for something I'm not particularly passionate about. Spending 2 years extra at uni for what is essentially a fun diversion (i.e.maths) is not what I'd like to do, not when it's got all this baggage.

Cursed Lib studies language requirement!
 

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David_O said:
It's not so much that I dislike science as much as I can't justify spending 4 years in a row at summer school to avoid finishing a bachelor's degree at the age of 30... for something I'm not particularly passionate about. Spending 2 years extra at uni for what is essentially a fun diversion (i.e.maths) is not what I'd like to do...

Cursed Lib studies language requirement!
So what is it exactly that you want to do? You want to do maths for fun right and from what I can gather you're interested in arts subjects otherwise. Why not consider the BA program where you can study more than enough maths subjects?
 

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This is all planning in case 84 arts CP isn't enough, as I said earlier.
Arts degree is capped at 144, which is too few perhaps.
Arts/Sci is at 240, which is too much...
 

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I've faced the same problem trying to find a way to study philosophy in a science degree (the opposite problem really :p). Have a look at what you can fit in and consider what you're willing to cut. You can manage a major in mathematics with only 48cp (as long as 24 of them are 3xxx subjects) or a really hefty minor. Think about the option of 48 and 96.
 

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Enter the BSc/Dip Arts
192 CP, up to 96 of which may be arts.


Could probably major with less than 48 (TSP out the 3rd years), but that defeats the whole point of everything...
 

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KFunk said:
They state it like a requirement but I don't know how much they enforce the 'should' part.
In the single BSc degree it will be enforced.
 

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