Why do private schools deserve state funding again? (1 Viewer)

[Ilikedrivingbymycarandthe]

i saw a “ casual“ story from a top private school, and the photo of their table area literally looks like that “ society if” meme. Like i genuinely can’t think of a reason these private schools deserve funding, like wdym “ educational DiVERsiTy ” Bich, ya’ll know damn well that half the kids who go to “ catholic” schools aren’t even catholic, and most of the top private schools aren’t even religious- so there’s literally no excuse. I guess my vendetta is stemming from the principal of Meriden girls talking about how selective schools should have decreased govt support on SMH, meanwhile schools like her’s exist .

if anyone can actually give me a good reason why priv schools deserve state funding, by all means pls do, bc all the reasons are bull. If parents can’t afford to support their kid’s 90k/yr school + donations maybe they should just go public, and support public schools having better servicing instead . I fully propose private school funding being cut by 100% so public schools can actually support their students smh. Additionally all politicians should be forced to send their kids to public schools

I’m so sick of these private schools casually sending their students on a 100k excursion to the USA and France to learn “visual arts” ( which their students suck at, drawing like a kindergarten in yr11) meanwhile public schools can barely have proper teachers bc private schools r where all the good pay is at 🧌
( this thread is literally a rant at this point lmao, but u get my point).

cute little photo of that private school located in the cbd, meanwhile there r homeless ppl literally a block away

 

[C2H6O]

pay to win type shi

 

[Hehehe22]

Capitalism and also the parents will complain (and the gov will listen cause they're loaded)

 

[cristal]

They should probably base funding from amount of school earns - staff pay (based on public school standards), and caps on P&C funding b4 counting towards school earning since public schools do that too, then use a tax-like system to determine gov funding based on amount they earn and sometimes amount tax-paying students if they earn lots like Meriden who have a lot of international students (like a lot lot), but still letting private schools that charge less fees still getting sufficient funding

ngl that photo is literally the Meriden + Santa Sabina campuses every time I pass them for a school excursion or smthing but the suburb is not so and more . Ykw maybe Newington too their campus is built like a park

 

[Average Boreduser]

i saw a “ casual“ story from a top private school, and the photo of their table area literally looks like that “ society if” meme. Like i genuinely can’t think of a reason these private schools deserve funding, like wdym “ educational DiVERsiTy ” Bich, ya’ll know damn well that half the kids who go to “ catholic” schools aren’t even catholic, and most of the top private schools aren’t even religious- so there’s literally no excuse. I guess my vendetta is stemming from the principal of Meriden girls talking about how selective schools should have decreased govt support on SMH, meanwhile schools like her’s exist .

if anyone can actually give me a good reason why priv schools deserve state funding, by all means pls do, bc all the reasons are bull. If parents can’t afford to support their kid’s 90k/yr school + donations maybe they should just go public, and support public schools having better servicing instead . I fully propose private school funding being cut by 100% so public schools can actually support their students smh. Additionally all politicians should be forced to send their kids to public schools

I’m so sick of these private schools casually sending their students on a 100k excursion to the USA and France to learn “visual arts” ( which their students suck at, drawing like a kindergarten in yr11) meanwhile public schools can barely have proper teachers bc private schools r where all the good pay is at 🧌
( this thread is literally a rant at this point lmao, but u get my point).

cute little photo of that private school located in the cbd, meanwhile there r homeless ppl literally a block away
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Private schools take away from the burden of overpopulation in public schools which in a way helps your government school funding dilemma as it reduces strain on local public schools and reduces overall funding as indp schools receive less funding than public schools. They obviously get paid less as they are independent, but rest assured a school cannot operate from simply just school fees (it is a massive expense to fund a school).

 

[Average Boreduser]

i saw a “ casual“ story from a top private school, and the photo of their table area literally looks like that “ society if” meme. Like i genuinely can’t think of a reason these private schools deserve funding, like wdym “ educational DiVERsiTy ” Bich, ya’ll know damn well that half the kids who go to “ catholic” schools aren’t even catholic, and most of the top private schools aren’t even religious- so there’s literally no excuse. I guess my vendetta is stemming from the principal of Meriden girls talking about how selective schools should have decreased govt support on SMH, meanwhile schools like her’s exist .

if anyone can actually give me a good reason why priv schools deserve state funding, by all means pls do, bc all the reasons are bull. If parents can’t afford to support their kid’s 90k/yr school + donations maybe they should just go public, and support public schools having better servicing instead . I fully propose private school funding being cut by 100% so public schools can actually support their students smh. Additionally all politicians should be forced to send their kids to public schools

I’m so sick of these private schools casually sending their students on a 100k excursion to the USA and France to learn “visual arts” ( which their students suck at, drawing like a kindergarten in yr11) meanwhile public schools can barely have proper teachers bc private schools r where all the good pay is at 🧌
( this thread is literally a rant at this point lmao, but u get my point).

cute little photo of that private school located in the cbd, meanwhile there r homeless ppl literally a block away
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FYI no one can take you seriously if you yourself can't argue your own point coherently here. Just because there a homeless people a block away does not mean that their homelessness would be resolved from public schools receiving the funding from indp schools. Note as well that excursions are funded by the school fees not gov funding. I.e. salaries, utilities, insurance, and general maintenance are what government funding is generally used for.

 

[Hehehe22]

Ok so I didn't realise that funding for private schools is actually HIGHER than that of public schools?! Like sure, they should get some funding to "ease the strain" on the public school system, heck even equal funding if it has to be that way, but isn't it counterproductive to give them more? Couldn't they just open up a new public school with that funding?

 

[Aeonium]

Private schools take away from the burden of overpopulation in public schools which in a way helps your government school funding dilemma as it reduces strain on local public schools and reduces overall funding as indp schools receive less funding than public schools. They obviously get paid less as they are independent, but rest assured a school cannot operate from simply just school fees (it is a massive expense to fund a school).

depends on which though i'd argue places like shore, grammar do not need external funding (just consider the demographic that the majority of the parents come from) . they seem to have enough money to offer teachers nearly double what they'd earn in the public sector (my old english teacher; rip)

 

[Average Boreduser]

Ok so I didn't realise that funding for private schools is actually HIGHER than that of public schools?! Like sure, they should get some funding to "ease the strain" on the public school system, heck even equal funding if it has to be that way, but isn't it counterproductive to give them more? Couldn't they just open up a new public school with that funding?

gov funding for private schools would not be sufficient to open up a new school bruh

 

[Ilikedrivingbymycarandthe]

Private schools take away from the burden of overpopulation in public schools which in a way helps your government school funding dilemma as it reduces strain on local public schools and reduces overall funding as indp schools receive less funding than public schools. They obviously get paid less as they are independent, but rest assured a school cannot operate from simply just school fees (it is a massive expense to fund a school).

Independent schools get more funding on average than public schools in order to “ EAsE the StRAin” with your average private school kid receiving $6000+ more than ur average public school kid in GOVERNMENT FUNDING ( not including the indepdent pay checks). That money could easily be directed towards public schools to A) increase the amount of public schools available AND B) increase the capacity of resources to accommodate more students. Instead of segregating people based off their incomes via education. We all know why they’re ”easing the strain” of public resources, which is to intentionally increase the resources and opportunities of rich kids while segregating the poor kids- it’s pretty obvious, u can tell by the fact that most politician’s kids go to private schools. I forgot this was even an argument for private schools to exist bc it’s so stupid lmao. Besides, if the principal of Meriden literally suggested that NSW cut the number of students in selective school bc they’re “bad competition”. The priv school argument makes no sense

 

[Hehehe22]

gov funding for private schools would not be sufficient to open up a new school bruh

It probably would, if you considered how it adds up over so many years

 

[Ilikedrivingbymycarandthe]

depends on which though i'd argue places like shore, grammar do not need external funding (just consider the demographic that the majority of the parents come from) . they seem to have enough money to offer teachers nearly double what they'd earn in the public sector (my old english teacher; rip)

No like literally. The only good argument I’ve ever heard were boarding schools for kids located rurally ( who literally have no access to education). Majority of the private schools ranked top 100 in the state do not deserve that funding. Especially ones like shore, grammar, reddam, as you’ve mentioned.

 

[Average Boreduser]

Independent schools get more funding on average than public schools in order to “ EAsE the StRAin” with your average private school kid receiving $6000+ more than ur average public school kid in GOVERNMENT FUNDING ( not including the indepdent pay checks). That money could easily be directed towards public schools to A) increase the amount of public schools available AND B) increase the capacity of resources to accommodate more students. Instead of segregating people based off their incomes via education. We all know why they’re ”easing the strain” of public resources, which is to intentionally increase the resources and opportunities of rich kids while segregating the poor kids- it’s pretty obvious, u can tell by the fact that most politician’s kids go to private schools. I forgot this was even an argument for private schools to exist bc it’s so stupid lmao. Besides, if the principal of Meriden literally suggested that NSW cut the number of students in selective school bc they’re “bad competition”. The priv school argument makes no sense

i stand corrected.

 

[jane1820]

ngl that photo is literally the Meriden + Santa Sabina campuses

as someone who has meriden and santa sabina as one of their local private schools, i can confirm meriden looks like that while santa sabina is more of vintage

 

[cristal]

as someone who has meriden and santa sabina as one of their local private schools, i can confirm meriden looks like that while santa sabina is more of vintage

yeah whoops the windows looked rlly fancy from the gate my bad

 

[C2H6O]

tbh all of this is just the principals of trickle down economics at play

 

[Eagle Mum]

if anyone can actually give me a good reason why priv schools deserve state funding,

You are most likely using the term ‘state’ to mean public, but I think the source of funding is relevant - public schools are funded and operated by the state government. The federal government gives funding to both public and private schools in every state because families at both public and private schools are tax payers (and voters) so I don’t think they’ll ever stop funding private schools. Perhaps state governments should allocate more of their budget to their public schools.

For context, all my kids attended local public (nonselective) schools and since I saved a lot of money not having to pay private school fees, I donated generously to many local school improvement projects.

 

[carrotsss]

Ok so I didn't realise that funding for private schools is actually HIGHER than that of public schools?! Like sure, they should get some funding to "ease the strain" on the public school system, heck even equal funding if it has to be that way, but isn't it counterproductive to give them more? Couldn't they just open up a new public school with that funding?

private schools get more federal funding whereas public schools get more state funding, it adds up to only slightly more funding for private schools which yeah is pretty insane

 

[iloveeggs]

You are most likely using the term ‘state’ to mean public, but I think the source of funding is relevant - public schools are funded and operated by the state government. The federal government gives funding to both public and private schools in every state because families at both public and private schools are tax payers (and voters) so I don’t think they’ll ever stop funding private schools. Perhaps state governments should allocate more of their budget to their public schools.

For context, all my kids attended local public (nonselective) schools and since I saved a lot of money not having to pay private school fees, I donated generously to many local school improvement projects.

i think we get the point in terms of taxpayers and things like that but as you may be able to understand when a privileged private school principal advocates for decreased govt support for public/selective schools it becomes harder to think in terms of kids of taxpayers going to all kinds of schools etc.

this is bc going to a private school and paying full tuition is a privilege, and frankly speaking a premium, that the parents of these students are paying on purpose for their belief that they will get a superior experience and quality of education in that school as opposed to the public ones.

for example the full costs to study Y12 in Meriden is approx 42K per annum, a PREMIUM cost that is not mandatory for anyone but those that choose to pay it. so as you may imagine its just a bit hard to understand for a lot of people why even after having to pay that much for resources and tuition taxpayers still need to contribute more towards their education.

in all honesty private schools like Meriden need to recieve some budget cuts from the govt bc surely they can be self sufficient with the exorbitant fees they charge (and i dont know, maybe if they dont build that aquatic centre planned for 2026, they could save some cash). i dont see why allowing more kids to experience premium education is the average taxpayer's concern when we are going through a housing crisis right now. like people cant afford a house to live in and we want to pour money into non-essential premiums.

again im sure some private schools could use some govt funding but the context of the lady's statements matter and thats why im using Meriden and schools like Meriden as an example.

im glad you were kind and able to contribute towards local school improvement but im sure you did it without an intention to benefit any specific group and more so for the general good. thats really what is lacking in the statements made by that principal i'm sure. there is a hint of malice in wanting a specific set of schools to be defunded when they serve a purpose in creating a pathway for individuals without the financial privilege to pay for private schools to still attend an academically rigorous school or be in what they percieve to be a better school environment.

i hope this principal lady is able to take a trip to Girraween High School someday and take a good look at the type of school she wants defunded by the govt. she def wont find a "centre for drama and music" there nor plans for a swimming pool of any sort

 

[HazzRat]

In Australia, a significant portion of private schools receive more government funding per student than comparable public schools, with some studies showing a large funding gap.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Funding Gaps:
  • Studies by the Australian Education Union (AEU) and others reveal that a majority of private schools in Australia receive more combined government funding (Commonwealth and State) per student than comparable public schools.
    
    
  • The funding gap can be substantial, with some studies showing a difference of over $7,000 per student.
    
    
  • In 2022, 56.3% of private schools received more funding than comparable public schools.
    
• Data and Reports:
  • A 2024 report by the AEU found that private schools, on average, receive $462 per student above their full Schooling Resource Standard (SRS) in combined government funding.
    
    
  • The report also indicated that public schools are underfunded by $2509 per student.
    
    
  • The NSW Teachers Federation reported that more than half of private schools in New South Wales now receive more combined Government funding (Commonwealth and State) per student than public schools of very similar size, location and with similar student needs.
    
• Increased Funding for Private Schools:
  • Some reports suggest that government spending on private schools has grown at a faster rate than spending on public schools.
    
    
  • For example, The Guardian reported that per student funding to independent and Catholic schools rose by 34% and 31% respectively from 2012 to 2021, while funding to public schools increased by just 17% during the same period.
    
• Public vs. Private Funding:
  • In the 2022-23 financial year, total recurrent government funding for schooling was $85.92 billion, with 75.4% allocated to government schools and 24.6% to non-government schools.
    
    
  • Total recurrent government funding was $24,857 per student in government schools and $14,561 per student for non-government schools.

• • Holy shit this is dumb