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limh-->0 [(x+h)3-x3]/h
limh-->0 [x3+3x2h+3xh2+h3-x3]/h
limh-->0 [3x2h+3xh2+h3]/h
limh-->0 h(3x2+3xh+h2)/h
limh-->0 3x2+3xh+h2
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Am I allowed to post up a question? If so, here is my question:

Consider f(x)=x^n.e^(-x) for x>0, given that f(x)>0 for all values of x in the given domain and n>0.
i) By considering the values of f(n), f(n-1) and f(n+1), prove that:
(1+[1/n])^n < e < (1-[1/n])^(-n)

The above part is easy. There's a harder part which comes later in the question.
 

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If f(x) = 4x/(3-x7) find f''(x)

f(x) = 4x/(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)

Now,
u = 4x
du/dx= 4

v = (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)
dv/dx = -7x<SUP>6</SUP>

f'(x) = [ v.du/dx - u.dv/dx ] / v<SUP>2</SUP>
f'(x) = [(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>).4 - 4x.(-7x<SUP>6</SUP> ] / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2</SUP>
f'(x) = (12 - 4x<SUP>7</SUP>+ 28x<SUP>7</SUP>) / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2</SUP>
f'(x) = (12 + 24x<SUP>7</SUP>)/ (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2</SUP>

Now,

u = (12 + 24x<SUP>7</SUP>)
du/dx = 168x<SUP>6</SUP>

v = (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>dv/dx = 2(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>).-7x<SUP>6</SUP>
dv/dx = -14x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)

f''(x) = [ v.du/dx - u.dv/dx ] / v<SUP>2</SUP>
f''(x) = [ (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2</SUP>.168x<SUP>6</SUP> - (12 + 24x<SUP>7</SUP>).-14x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>) ] / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>4</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>f''(x) = [ 168x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2 </SUP>- 12( 1 + 2x<SUP>7</SUP>).-14x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>) ] / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>4</SUP>
f''(x) = [ 168x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>2 </SUP>+ 168x<SUP>6</SUP>( 1 + 2x<SUP>7</SUP>)(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>) ] / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>4</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>f''(x) = 168x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)[<SUP> </SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>) + ( 1 + 2x<SUP>7</SUP>) ] / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>4</SUP>
<SUP></SUP>f''(x) = 168x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)[<SUP> </SUP>3 - x<SUP>7</SUP>) + 1 + 2x<SUP>7</SUP> ] / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>4</SUP>
f''(x) = 168x<SUP>6</SUP>(3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)(4+x<SUP>7</SUP>) / (3-x<SUP>7</SUP>)<SUP>4</SUP>
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Next question ^^

Prove that

3n < n!

for all positive integers n ≥ 7




I don't know how to do this one so can someone please give the solutions to it. Ty



If not then,

Solve for x,

[ |x|/(x-1) ] > 2
 
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Haha, I need to revise induction. Might be a good idea to do that soon :p

If not then,

Solve for x,

[ |x|/(x-1) ] > 2
|x|/(x-1) ] > 2 b.s.*(x-1)2

|x|(x-1)>2(x-1)2
|x|(x-1)>2x2-4x+2

Case 1: x(x-1) > 2x2-4x+2
x2 > 2x2-4x+2
x2-3x+2 <0
(x-2)(x-1)<0

By drawing a facilitating graph, 1 < x < 2

Case 2: x(x-1) < -2x2-4x+2
3x2+3x-2<0

Now, Δ<0, Therefore no real solution.

Overall solution:
1 < x < 2


Next question:

Solve for x: |5x-12| = -13
 
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Prove that

3n < n!

for all positive integers n ≥ 7

I don't know how to do this one so can someone please give the solutions to it. Ty
For n = 7
LHS = 37
= 2187
RHS = 7!
= 5040
LHS < RHS .: Statement is true for n = 7
Assume the statement is true for n = k
i.e. 3k < k!
Required to prove it is true for n = k + 1
i.e. 3k + 1 < (k + 1)!
LHS = 3k + 1
= 3.3k
< 3k! by assumption
< (k + 1)! *
= RHS
*Since k > 7 => k + 1 > 8 > 3, hence 3 < k + 1 (then multiply both sides by k! giving 3k! < (k + 1)!)

The statement is true for n = k + 1, if it is true for n = k. Since it is true for n = 7, it follows by induction it is true for all other integers n > 7


Question:

One of the most famous equations used to describe quantum mechanics of particles is the Schrödinger equation which is given in the following one-dimensional simplified form:
(- ħ²/2m) (d²Ψ/dx²) = E.Ψ

where ћ and m are some constants and d²Ψ/dx² is the second derivative operated on Ψ with respect to x.

If Ψ = sin (πx/L) is a solution to this differential equation, find an expression for E.

PS: For those who do Physics m is the mass of the particle, E is the energy and ћ is actually Planck's constant divided by 2π (i.e. ћ = h/2π).
 
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Next question:

Solve for x: |5x-12| = -13
Looks like no solution to me, as the graph of |5x-12| will always be above x-axis, and y = -13 is below...? Or you can interpet it to mean the absolute value of something yields a negative result which can't occur..
 

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Question:

One of the most famous equations used to describe quantum mechanics of particles is the Schrödinger equation which is given in the following one-dimensional simplified form:
(- ħ²/2m) (d²Ψ/dx²) = E.Ψ

where ћ and m are some constants and d²Ψ/dx² is the second derivative operated on Ψ with respect to x.

If Ψ = sin (πx/L) is a solution to this differential equation, find an expression for E.

PS: For those who do Physics m is the mass of the particle, E is the energy and ћ is actually Planck's constant divided by 2π (i.e. ћ = h/2π).
S -ћ^2/2m d^2Ψ/dx^2 = EΨ
=> - ћ^2/2m (dΨ/dx) = EΨ
=> (- ћ^2/2m)*Ψ = EΨx
=> ћ^2/2m = -Ex
Don't know if this is right though
 

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S -ћ^2/2m d^2Ψ/dx^2 = EΨ
=> - ћ^2/2m (dΨ/dx) = EΨ
=> (- ћ^2/2m)*Ψ = EΨx
=> ћ^2/2m = -Ex
Don't know if this is right though
Integration won't work because you have no information to evaluate the constants (which you excluded)
 

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Question:

One of the most famous equations used to describe quantum mechanics of particles is the Schrödinger equation which is given in the following one-dimensional simplified form:
(- ħ²/2m) (d²Ψ/dx²) = E.Ψ

where ћ and m are some constants and d²Ψ/dx² is the second derivative operated on Ψ with respect to x.

If Ψ = sin (πx/L) is a solution to this differential equation, find an expression for E.

PS: For those who do Physics m is the mass of the particle, E is the energy and ћ is actually Planck's constant divided by 2π (i.e. ћ = h/2π).
Ψ=sin(nx/L)
dΨ/dx=(n/L)cos(nx/L), assuming n and L are constants- if not then this is prob wrong lol
d2Ψ/dx2=-(n2x)/L2)sin(nx/L)

therefore, E.sin(nx/L)=(- ħ²/2m) .-(n2x)/L2)sin(nx/L)
E=(- ħ²/2m) .-(n2x)/L2)
=ħ²n2x/2mL2
 

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Ψ=sin(nx/L)
dΨ/dx=(n/L)cos(nx/L), assuming n and L are constants- if not then this is prob wrong lol
d2Ψ/dx2=-(n2x)/L2)sin(nx/L)

therefore, E.sin(nx/L)=(- ħ²/2m) .-(n2x)/L2)sin(nx/L)
E=(- ħ²/2m) .-(n2x)/L2)
=ħ²n2x/2mL2
There shouldn't be an x in the equation and btw it's π (pi) not n. Though the method is correct...
 

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For n = 7
LHS = 37
= 2187
RHS = 7!
= 5040
LHS < RHS .: Statement is true for n = 7
Assume the statement is true for n = k
i.e. 3k < k!
Required to prove it is true for n = k + 1
i.e. 3k + 1 < (k + 1)!
LHS = 3k + 1
= 3.3k
< 3k! by assumption
< (k + 1)! *
= RHS
*Since k > 7 => k + 1 > 8 > 3, hence 3 < k + 1 (then multiply both sides by k! giving 3k! < (k + 1)!)

The statement is true for n = k + 1, if it is true for n = k. Since it is true for n = 7, it follows by induction it is true for all other integers n > 7


Question:

One of the most famous equations used to describe quantum mechanics of particles is the Schrödinger equation which is given in the following one-dimensional simplified form:
(- ħ²/2m) (d²Ψ/dx²) = E.Ψ

where ћ and m are some constants and d²Ψ/dx² is the second derivative operated on Ψ with respect to x.

If Ψ = sin (πx/L) is a solution to this differential equation, find an expression for E.

PS: For those who do Physics m is the mass of the particle, E is the energy and ћ is actually Planck's constant divided by 2π (i.e. ћ = h/2π).
[(h^2)(pi^2)]/(2mL) = E ?

Do you just sub Ψ = sin (πx/L) into the equation, then find the second derivative of sin (πx/L) with respect to x, then just simplify?
 

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[(h^2)(pi^2)]/(2mL) = E ?

Do you just sub Ψ = sin (πx/L) into the equation, then find the second derivative of sin (πx/L) with respect to x, then just simplify?
Like independantz, correct method but slightly incorrect answer lol check your working...
 

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Ψ = sin (πx/L)
Therefore
dΨ/dx = (π/L)cos(πx/L)
d^2Ψ/dx^2 = -(π^2/L^2)sin(πx/L)

Hence, Esin(πx/L) = [(h^2)(π^2)/2mL^2]sin(πx/L)
Hence, E = [(h^2)(π^2)/2mL^2]
 

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