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a little bit confused about the melbourne model

with the melb model, we study 3 years undergrad then take 2 years graduate engineering, so that will be 3 years undergrad BSci followed with 2 years master in engineering

how is it different to double degree? BSci/BE takes the same 5 years

what are the advantage and disadvantage of both? :confused:
 

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B.Eng & B.Sc would be more broad, you could do something like electrical engineering and statistics.

Masters of Engineering means you are a better engineer, I'm not sure about engineering but there is a large difference in wages between B.Sc & M.Sc in mathematics
 

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B.Eng & B.Sc would be more broad, you could do something like electrical engineering and statistics.

Masters of Engineering means you are a better engineer, I'm not sure about engineering but there is a large difference in wages between B.Sc & M.Sc in mathematics
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hmmm... so that means the melbourne one is more "prestigious" since it gives u master degree? o_O
 

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hmmm... so that means the melbourne one is more "prestigious" since it gives u master degree? o_O
no. a bachelor in eng and a master in eng are exactly the same thing in the case of the melbourne model. both are recognised by engineers australia (the governing body for engineers) and both will lead to a career in your chosen field.

More importantly, the 'double degree' of the melbourne model isnt as flexible as doing a more conventional double degree at another uni. This is because you are restricted by what you can major in at melbourne in science ie to be able to do master of engineering in civil engineering you MUST major in civil systems in the bachelor of science at undergrad level, then do your masters. However, doing a BSci/BEng at, say, Monash, in science you can major in any subject field, as well as majoring in your chosen engineering stream in the engineering degree.

Btw, the 'prestige' of melbourne uni is perceived by the public, but does not extend totally to engineering by employers. RMIT and Monash both are regarded as slightly higher by graduate employers than Melbourne (thats not saying its a crap uni!) Its just that the aforementioned uni's teach engineering in a way that employers like. That is, using a common example, Melbourne will drill into you how to build something with theory, tests, exams, examples etc. whereas RMIT and Monash will actually get you to build it. Employers seem to like this way of teaching.
 

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no. a bachelor in eng and a master in eng are exactly the same thing in the case of the melbourne model. both are recognised by engineers australia (the governing body for engineers) and both will lead to a career in your chosen field.

More importantly, the 'double degree' of the melbourne model isnt as flexible as doing a more conventional double degree at another uni. This is because you are restricted by what you can major in at melbourne in science ie to be able to do master of engineering in civil engineering you MUST major in civil systems in the bachelor of science at undergrad level, then do your masters. However, doing a BSci/BEng at, say, Monash, in science you can major in any subject field, as well as majoring in your chosen engineering stream in the engineering degree.

Btw, the 'prestige' of melbourne uni is perceived by the public, but does not extend totally to engineering by employers. RMIT and Monash both are regarded as slightly higher by graduate employers than Melbourne (thats not saying its a crap uni!) Its just that the aforementioned uni's teach engineering in a way that employers like. That is, using a common example, Melbourne will drill into you how to build something with theory, tests, exams, examples etc. whereas RMIT and Monash will actually get you to build it. Employers seem to like this way of teaching.
One problem I have found is that you are not guarenteed an Masters of Engineering placement upon completion of your Bachelor of Science degree. Well you can get a full fee paying place but other than that its not 100%! I don't know whether to keep going with science or transfer to the bachelor of engineering! I know both are the same until the second year.

With theory yes Melbourne is very much a theory based place and in ESD 1 we haven't done that much 'hands on' work and that has been detrimental to how we have handled doing NXT programming (9 hours of hands on work the rest was theory). But at the same time we have been thrown into our marks being a group effort (i.e. we are assigned a group to work with) and how we as a group work determines our marks so it isn't all just theory.
 

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