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I can't figure out how to do this. I did this a month ago and now I'm revising and just can't get it. It's really killing me.

5. e) Differentiate: ln (7x - 2)
5. g) differentiate: log2 x

6. d) Find the integral of: (e2x + 5) limits being 1 to 0.
6. e) '' xex2 (this one is indefinite)

Would someone explain the process of integrating with logs, my textbook/workbook doesn't go into enough detail. I really need baby steps here!
 

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I can't figure out how to do this. I did this a month ago and now I'm revising and just can't get it. It's really killing me.

5. e) Differentiate: ln (7x - 2)
5. g) differentiate: log2 x

6. d) Find the integral of: (e2x + 5) limits being 1 to 0.
6. e) '' xex2 (this one is indefinite)

Would someone explain the process of integrating with logs, my textbook/workbook doesn't go into enough detail. I really need baby steps here!





















































This is in the form:



Now,



So in reverse,



So we may now proceed as such:





 
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I can't figure out how to do this. I did this a month ago and now I'm revising and just can't get it. It's really killing me.

5. e) Differentiate: ln (7x - 2)
5. g) differentiate: log2 x

6. d) Find the integral of: (e2x + 5) limits being 1 to 0.
6. e) '' xex2 (this one is indefinite)

Would someone explain the process of integrating with logs, my textbook/workbook doesn't go into enough detail. I really need baby steps here!
a. with such question u jsut differeniate

"7x-2" = 7
then u just put

7
------- and that's ur answer
7x-2
 

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Kurt, for the last one, I'm not getting it, where does the 1/2 come from?
 

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Another one.

Find the integral of (x2 + 3/x) from 2 to 1.

I ended up getting 2/1/3, which is half the answer. The whole answer is 2/1/3 + 3ln2.

Where on earth does ln come into the equation?

While we're at it, how would you do
 
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Kurt, for the last one, I'm not getting it, where does the 1/2 come from?
Well, we are trying to get the function in the form f'(x) ef(x).

Notice that the derivative of the exponent ie x^2 is 2x, by we have only x out the front, so if we write it like 1/2 x 2x, which is the same as x, then we can simply do the integration, then half it.
 

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So if I understand correctly, you need to differentiate it to then integrate it? 1/2 x 2x = x which is the original value, but it lets us integrate when its in that form?







Right so I don't understand
to
 

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If they should cancel out, why does the 2 disappear and nothing happens with the 1/2?

AND



There's a half in the working out, dunno why that's there either. Somebody explain?
 

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The rule is int f'(x)*e^f(x). f'(x) = 2x

So we want the equation to be 2x*e^(x^2)

int x*e^(x^2) is the same as <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CSAMSON%7E1%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:punctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:SimSun; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-alt:宋体; mso-font-charset:134; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 135135232 16 0 262145 0;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-1610611985 1073750139 0 0 159 0;} @font-face {font-family:"\@SimSun"; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-charset:134; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 135135232 16 0 262145 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:SimSun; mso-ansi-language:EN-AU;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:36.0pt; mso-footer-margin:36.0pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]-->1/2 int 2x*e^(x^2). (Since 2 / 2 = 1)

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CSAMSON%7E1%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:punctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:SimSun; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-alt:宋体; mso-font-charset:134; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 135135232 16 0 262145 0;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-1610611985 1073750139 0 0 159 0;} @font-face {font-family:"\@SimSun"; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-charset:134; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 135135232 16 0 262145 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:SimSun; mso-ansi-language:EN-AU;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:36.0pt; mso-footer-margin:36.0pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]-->1/2 int 2x*e^(x^2) satisfies the rule int f'(x)*e^f(x) = e^f(x)

Answer will be 1/2 e^(x^2)
 

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* is multiply on the computer.
. sometimes may be commonly mistaken as a decimal point when typing on computer.
 

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I've never been told this. * means multiply doesn't it? So does .?

so f'(x) TIMES e^f(x) TIMES f'(x).

I must be missing something here.
OH NO !

I meant f'(x) TIMES e^f(x) FULLSTOP f'(x) is 2x.

Sorry that's my fault I didn't start a new line.
 

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neeeeeeeed some help please :confused:

calculate the area bounded by the curve y=2cos2x and the line x=0 and
x= 3pi/4 (diagram if possible as well?):eek:

than yoooooooooooou very much :)
 

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