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The dusty streets of Kismayo in Somalia echoed to the sound of a vehicle with loudspeakers summoning residents to a new form of public "entertainment" earlier this month.

People were being invited to see a man have his hand chopped off in a public park in the city.

The young man, Mohamed Omar Ismail, had been found guilty of stealing goods from another man's house.

That afternoon, hundreds of local people flocked to Freedom Park in order to see the amputation.

After a long wait, Mr Ismail was brought out in front of the people and an official started to read out the court decision from a piece of paper.

Clothes theft
"The Islamic Sharia court of Kismayo district confirms that Mohamed Omar Ismail has been found guilty of stealing," the official announced.

"Mr Ismail stole 10 pairs of trousers, 10 shirts, eight other items and a bag. The value of all the items is estimated to be $90."



The official quoted a chapter from the Koran known as Surah Maida, verse 38, which is about stealing and relevant punishment.

He said that the verse decreed that punishment for stealing was that the right hand of the thief should be cut off.

A local journalist who witnessed the events unfold saw a shocked-looking Mr Ismail brought into the park.

His right hand was held up to the crowds.
It was then laid on a table and severed immediately and without ceremony at the wrist.


Bloody hand dangled
The eyewitness told of his horror as the bloody body part was dangled by its index finger in front of the crowd to prove that punishment had been meted out.


Mr Ismail is now recovering from his injury in Kismayo General Hospital, where he is being guarded by the Islamist militia who punished him.
Mohamed Omar Ismail reportedly insists he did not commit the burglary


They do not allow him to talk to the media.
But according to an independent source, Mr


Ismail insists he did not commit the burglary for which he lost his hand.


He said he was still appalled at what had happened to him and the terrible pain he had suffered.


Although there have been several executions and a number of public floggings meted out in the swathes of central and southern Somalia currently controlled by hardline Islamists, this is believed to have been just the second amputation this year.


Michelle Kagari, of Amnesty International's Africa programme, said: "Punishments like these illustrate the extent to which violence still substitutes for the rule of law in many areas of Somalia."


She said she wanted the United Nations to take concrete steps to stop such human rights abuses, and that an independent commission of inquiry or similar mechanism should be set up to investigate.

'Due process'
Amnesty International has also called on the fragile Somali transitional government - and the militias which currently run Kismayo and other parts of the south - to publicly condemn all human rights abuses, including punishments carried out without due process of law.
It is believed to have been the second amputation in Somalia this year



But the Somali government is more preoccupied struggling to withstand the latest onslaught by the opposition radical alliance of the Islamic party (Hisbul-Islam) and al-Shabab.


On Sunday, fighters from the al-Shabab group, which is linked to al-Qaeda, took the key town of Jowhar from government forces.



A spokesman for the group said Sharia would be imposed there.


Earlier this year, the Western-backed moderate Islamist government based in Mogadishu announced the introduction of Sharia law throughout the country.


But this failed to appease the hardliners, who follow the Wahhabi school of Islam, based on a more rigid reading of Islamic texts, rather than the mainstream Sunni faith practised by most Somalis.

Alien culture
Amputations and the recent stoning to death of a 13-year-old mentally disabled girl are shocking displays of al-Shabab's interpretation of Islamic law.
And their writ extends into everyday life.
Correspondents say Somalia is sliding deeper into chaos



Now, women who do not wear hijab in al-Shabab-run areas are prohibited from leaving their homes.
They are instructed to cover themselves from head to toe. No part of their body is permitted to be seen in public.


This culture is alien to many Somali women, particularly those in rural areas who work in farms or herd goats, sheep and cattle.


These women work very hard under the scorching sun and wearing such dresses makes their already difficult life harder still.


But their fear of the new administrators means they have no other option but to comply.


There are reports that local women, who are not well off, are going to tailors and markets to buy these dresses.
The robes are locally known as jalaabiibs and cost between $12 and $15 (£9.70).


Amnesty International say opposition leaders in Somalia carry out punishments without any oversight or accountability.
But the harsh punishments and killings that take place are unlikely to end while the government, the Islamists and now the Ethiopians struggle to control the country.





BBC NEWS | Africa | Somali justice - Islamist-style




pretty gross :confused:
 

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LOL, isn't half the Islamic legal code derived from the Jewish holy book? stoning to death, imputation etc etc
 

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Food is running out or has run out, there is daily violence, corrupt leadership (if there is any), there are no civil services at all, no real law and order and clearly from this, no justice.

Under these circumstances, I'd be prepared to say most societies would plunge into anarchy. I'm not surprised by this at all, I pity all those involved in Africa. It's when it happens in reasonably controlled countries like Saudi Arabia etc. that it really freaks me out.
 

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Dont worry guys, all he has to do now is redeem himself for Allah, then he's happy, the militia are happy, everyones happy.

Not AmnestyInt. though.
 

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Looks like the ICU is back in power. And just when we thought Ethiopia helped drive them out of Somalia and into Eritrea.
 
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excuse me racist muts but those r the laws of that country and Allah doesn't except this stonning to death bullshit u all r brainwashed with. Before u all jump to conclusion maybe do a 5min research about islam and see what the real meaning of this religen is.
Last I checked, Islam wasn't a race...

Now, my turn. Shut up you fascist, dictator, gender oppressing, human rights crushing berk.

See, we can do that too.
 

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Islam is a race, religion, creed, nation and a tribe. We are Universal. For we are one people, united for Allah and against those who appose his rule across the Earth that he gave to muslims.

Either convert to Islam or face the wrath of Allah's army on Earth.

Takbeer: ALLAH AKHBAR!
 
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khorne

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Wrath away boy, but before you do, I tap 3 mana and play atheism, negating your attack points.
 

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Islam is a race, religion, creed, nation and a tribe. We are Universal. For we are one people, united for Allah and against those who appose his rule across the Earth that he gave to muslims.

Either convert to Islam or face the wrath of Allah's army on Earth.

Takbeer: ALLAH AKHBAR!
allah akhbar (god is great). I agree 110%
 
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Declaration of Human Rights...That article breaks like....5 codes? even 6? This is a forum, for discussion, I can say what I want, fascist.

You're also doing yourself a favor by playing on the stereotype.
 

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Deceleration of human rights is a Zionist article created by western propagandists to undermine the Sharia across the world.

Therefore, whatever such a document states must be disregarded.
 
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As must your Holy book, as well as every religions holy book. The world, politics and everything should be secular, and religion outlawed, that would fix...just about everything.

As for you,

ok rasict ur face looks like a sterotype


Makes no sense, so I'll ignore this

see i can say what i want to

You are already...

now im sure in the future u will be dealing with islamic people

Hoping they are better than you

do some research on islam coz like i feel u have been brainwashed as u grew up

I have my own views...I don't dislike islam, but you're over the top.

act like a pig act like a human

I am...I'm expressing my views.

As for Savak...I hope such documents are...Then the US can continue torturing everyone, and maybe even nuke every Middle Eastern country, zip in for the oil, and then bugger off.

We're all on the same boat people..where's the love?

And any other comments relating to me being 'racist" (islam is not a race), I will counter with this:

When you arrive to Australia, you must adopt any rights and values inherent in the nation, as you would in ANY other country. These rights include freedom of expression and generally revolve around a secular system. Thus, while you may practice religion, it is imperative you adopt and acknowledge the rights and freedoms of others.
 
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