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Both cultures have their flaws, yes; but if you can sit here and not accept that this demonstrates a profound barbarism that exists in the culture of these Sharia Law countries, then you deserve to live in one of these countries.we have absolutely no right at all. we're not superior, we're different. obviously both cultues have flaws. the islam extremists treatment of women being a scathingly obvious example, but the west is no where no perfect. We've seen what happens when the west try to impose its way of life on other cultures (Iraq, Afghanistan?)
I think this law is disgusting, but i highly doubt its representative of the majority of the islam community.
what you can't seem to admit to yourself, its that we MUST impose our way of life on other cultures. not because we think we're better, but because we have fucked up. by giving them weapons and technology to kill and oppress each other, we have destroyed their culture. we should never have interferred with the development of the middle-east, but we're not perfect and we make mistakes.we have absolutely no right at all. we're not superior, we're different. obviously both cultues have flaws. the islam extremists treatment of women being a scathingly obvious example, but the west is no where no perfect. We've seen what happens when the west try to impose its way of life on other cultures (Iraq, Afghanistan?)
I think this law is disgusting, but i highly doubt its representative of the majority of the islam community.
Both cultures have their flaws, yes; but if you can sit here and not accept that this demonstrates a profound barbarism that exists in the culture of these Sharia Law countries, then you deserve to live in one of these countries.
The problem is not Islam itself; it's religious fundamentalism and religious dominance. What's important to remember is that these types of laws were just as prevalent in canon law in western society not too long ago. Then separation of church and state and feminism and rational thought came into it and we evolved. These countries are just less developed in their culture and attitudes with regards to religion than the western world. Which is barbaric, but not for us to try and change; the process of evolution will eventually come about and they'll have more sensible attitudes towards...everything.
What is important NOW is that we help these poor women that are suffering at the hands of this barbarism. The fact this is happening in a country we've already supposed to have "liberated," highlights our shoddy efforts so far.
did you not understand? the actions of the taliban and those persons are clearly against islam, all schollars (Phd in islam, minimum age 40) are in agreement of this.Okay, great, Islam was better than the west in terms of women's rights (for the sake of argument) centuries ago. We have now leapfrogged it, so when is it going to catch up?
Go and be a woman in an Islamic country, and then come back to me and say that.I don't think its a case of islam 'catching up' to western society. Both cultures are different, the west is not the moral beacon of the world and cultures don't have to conform to our expectations.
i've said before i completely disagree with the oppression of women, or anyone for that matter. personally, i think the law in this thread is particularly vile.Go and be a woman in an Islamic country, and then come back to me and say that.
lol if the west isnt the moral beacon of the world, who is?
oh thats right, they are. Have a look at the top countries ranked by equality, freedom, quality of living etc etc
prove me wrong guy
errr wrong
we have international bodies to decide these things
therefore the west is the bet
best thing since sliced bread
Yeah but Western Civilization > Islamic Civilization by a long mile.did you not understand? the actions of the taliban and those persons are clearly against islam, all schollars (Phd in islam, minimum age 40) are in agreement of this.
BTW i did not say that middle eastern society was ever better, just had different flaws, and better in some aspects. We are all human, we are all flawed.
sorry, but i really should go study now.
Cultural relativism is axiomatically hypocritical, if you were older than four, you'd realise this you budding little trot.that is exactly what i'm saying, there is no moral beacon of the world because different cultures have different idea's on morality. to think otherwise and compare cultures is ethnocentric and grossly ignorant.