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We're failing to nurture wisdom, uni chief asserts

UNIVERSITIES are value-free zones and need to reassert the primary purpose of education, building the ethical and moral character of students, a Sydney vice-chancellor has said.

At an inaugural annual oration last night at Macquarie University, the university's vice-chancellor, Steven Schwartz, said he wanted a return to education's ''ancient roots''.

He said the rector of St Andrews University in 1867, the British philosopher John Stuart Mill, correctly identified the object of universities was "not to make skilful lawyers, or physicians, or engineers, but capable and cultivated human beings''.

To address this educational philosophy, all new Macquarie undergraduates would be required to study arts, humanities and science subjects as well as work in the community.

''Education is, or should be, a moral enterprise,'' Professor Schwartz said before a discussion panel including the author and journalist Jeff McMullen, the Herald columnist Miranda Devine, the historian and former vice-chancellor Emeritus Professor Deryck Schreuder, and the headmaster of The King's School, Dr Tim Hawkes.

''Universities … no longer have a moral role, they have given it up for one that is strictly utilitarian. Moral relativity has rendered universities unable to make judgments; they could not even decide which subjects students should study.

''Today students are allowed to choose from hundreds of options with no subjects considered more important than others. The result is that our universities teach students, but they do not even pretend to make them wise.''

Professor Schwartz said universities had diminished and demeaned their work by construing their purpose ''simply as wealth creation''.

He said suggestions offered in the federal budget papers and by the former Australian chief scientist Robin Batterham in his report The Chance to Change - that universities were dynamos of economic growth, boosting the national standing - were a ''gross'' exaggeration.

Rather, a university education should produce men and women who can understand the world, write and speak coherently, identify a poem or distinguish a symphony from a jingle.

The University of Western Sydney's vice-chancellor, Professor Janice Reid, said the higher purposes espoused for higher education more than a century ago were fashioned by a social elite that was male, white, wealthy and privileged.

''There is no denying a university education enables an individual to live a more fulfilling life,'' she said. ''However, without economic security and social cohesion, the quest for personal fulfilment is illusory.''

Dr Hawkes said the lecture was ''music to his ears'' and that a real moral ambiguity existed in society.

But he believed the implementation of such ideas would be difficult.

''Politics, pragmatism, and pecuniary reality may torpedo us,'' he said.
We're failing to nurture wisdom, uni chief asserts

Sounds like a rubbish university imo. A bachelors degree already consumes a substantial portion of your life, requiring students to undertake an extra 3 years in arts or science, before allowing them to move onto their desired vocational degree, is elitist and a complete waste of time.

Why would you choose to attend a university where you are given less choice?
 

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Melbourne did that and now theyre firing academics left right and centre.
 

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Nothing to do with morals or ethics
 

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Luckily this is my last semester at MQ then. It's a stupid idea. If I wanted to waste three years of my life, I would have done arts units.
We're all far too zen to get riled over little jibes like that man.
 

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New admissions into MQ '10 = -40%

Seriously, if I was forced to go and do arts & humanities subjects as a part of my university degree, that university would completely and utterly go down to my last resort. Uni is about getting a piece of paper which proclaims you can now enter the workforce at a decent starter wage and then proceed to unlearn everything you supposedly learnt over the last 3 years.
 

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Whats wrong? Market forces should deal with this 'new program'.
 
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tbh i think you're all proving the point.

you're refusing the idea because you're unethical and have a lack of moral character

explains why yr all capitalist imho
 

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I blame the socialists, commi's, religous groups, and hippies all going around and hassling everyone who show's one sign of weakness when walking past asking money for some stupid cause and then crack the shits when u rip down their posters. Seriously these leeches need to die.
 

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How is taking arts, humanities and science subjects going to build moral character?
 

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There are some things a university degree can't give you.
If it cant teach you to wash your dishes or change toilet paper or other basic household maintenance and personal hygiene, etc. explicitly, what hope does it give in building moral character?

But I salute to the doctors, engineers, scientists.
 

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science is lacking in demand?
are u fucking simple boy?
I only fucking meant courses at Macquarie university.

I'm not sure whether science is lacking in demand or not. Nor do I necessarily care as the thread is concerned with mainly courses and not degrees.
 
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I only fucking meant courses at Macquarie university.

I'm not sure whether science is lacking in demand or not. Nor do I necessarily care as the thread is concerned with mainly courses and not degrees.
i think u mean units not courses.
 

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how about teach this stuff in high school so you will already know it for uni?
 

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