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AHAHAHHAHAh You fucking dumb cunt
Zionism is the international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine

Israel has existed for over 60 years you fucking spastic zionism is irrelevant now.
HEY DUMB FUCK, DID YOU SCROLL DOWN?
Are you telling me...you read the first few lines and that's it?
I KNOW WHAT ZIONISM IS. Now run along. Either read that entire article
and catch my drift, or gtfo.

Nationalist Zionism has dominated most governments since 1977.
Affiliated with the government? Yes sir.
 

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zionism is generally meant to be related to the support of a jewish homeland

don't read too far into, comrades
 

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Wikipedia lol. Pretty sure even Neb will agree with me that Israel DOES exist (whether he agrees with it or not). Zionism is archaic, obviously they want to keep existing as does every nation.

Edit: read whole article. It's all in passed tense. You really are fucking stupid.
 

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Wikipedia lol. Pretty sure even Neb will agree with me that Israel DOES exist (whether he agrees with it or not). Zionism is archaic, obviously they want to keep existing as does every nation.

Edit: read whole article. It's all in passed tense. You really are fucking stupid.


Please shut up, you moron.
 

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no seriously just think it through, it's really simple: zionism was a movement for the creation of Israel. Israel exists.
 

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"Zionism is the international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine. The area was the Jewish Biblical homeland, called the Land of Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra'el). Since the creation of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel."

What the fuck are you even arguing about, Riet?
 

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oh you're a moron too, calling the jewish government zionist doesn't make any fucking sense, all governments want to prolong the existence of their state.
 

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oh you're a moron too, calling the jewish government zionist doesn't make any fucking sense, all governments want to prolong the existence of their state.

Lol. You never cease to amaze me.


The Israeli government is indeed Zionist. Israel was founded on Zionism, the leaders are Zionists, many of the people are Zionists, Zionism is the nationalist movement...basically, the place oozes Zionism.
 

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Its pretty simple, why should the establishment one state be trusted with a nuclear bomb and not the other? Yes, the rhetoric may seem that the state of Iran is wacko, but please do not suggest that there are no far right entities within the Israeli establishment whom are not. If push comes to shove I wouldn't be surprised if Israel does use nuclear weapons even if no other state in the middle east has them.
 

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please don't legitimise the criminally insane morons in the israeli cabinet by referring to them as "right wing" or anything like that

call them by what they are: batshit insane.
 

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Its pretty simple, why should the establishment one state be trusted with a nuclear bomb and not the other? Yes, the rhetoric may seem that the state of Iran is wacko, but please do not suggest that there are no far right entities within the Israeli establishment whom are not. If push comes to shove I wouldn't be surprised if Israel does use nuclear weapons even if no other state in the middle east has them.
Israel has had nuclear weapons during many wars, one of which seriously threatened it's existence, and yet it has never made any overtures to use them, unlike Iran.

But in this aspect, maybe Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, is correct:

"When Israelis talk a lot, it means that they will do nothing. However, when they are silent like a snake we have to be cautious."

But anyway, don't get so aggro pro-Israel supporters. Israel is far more capable of launching a first strike based on intelligence, and were Iran to fire a nuke towards Iran, Israel should have it's new anti-missile Arrow thingamajig ready which can pwn it, amongst other technology. And then hey, Israel would finally have an excuse to use it's nuclear weapons and THEN there will be peace xD. Hopefully that never happens though, and Iran have an epiphany or lose their nuclear capabilities in some kind of military strike.

But see, cause no matter how loud these bitches clamor, in the end, Israel still exists, and it still has the best military in the region, and this shall continue long into the foreseeable future with contributions from around the world, not to mention monthly from my bank account :D

The only way they can cause any change is by supporting the Israeli left, and this will never happen, cause they cbf'd acknowledging its right to exist.
 

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ahmedinejad was elected fairly.
I haven't heard much credible evidence to suggest otherwise. People here, and the moronic Arabs who lost, tend to assume that the election was fixed because their man didn't win.
 

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I haven't heard much credible evidence to suggest otherwise. People here, and the moronic Arabs who lost, tend to assume that the election was fixed because their man didn't win.
um, you missed his point. it still wasn't a fair election, even if ahmadinejad won.
 

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lolwut?

I said "assume that the election was fixed", which concerns an unfair election

wtf
 

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SMH said:
TEHRAN: Intensifying tensions over its nuclear program and military ambitions, Iran began war games yesterday, test-firing three short-range missiles two days after the United Nations nuclear watchdog disclosed that the Islamic republic was building a second uranium enrichment plant.

The air force commander of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, Hossein Salami, said there would also be a test-firing today of the long-range Shahab-3 missile, which Iran says has a range of 1300 to 2000 kilometres and could hit Israel.

The missile manoeuvres come after the US President, Barack Obama, decided earlier this month to scrap a missile defence shield in Europe.

In taking the decision, Mr Obama emphasised the threat of Iran's short- and medium-range missiles instead of the potential danger of longer-range weapons.

The White House said the intelligence community now believed Iran was developing shorter-range missiles ''more rapidly than previously projected'', while progressing more slowly than expected with intercontinental missiles. Israel, most Arab states and parts of Europe, including much of Turkey, are within range of the Shahab-3.

Detail has emerged of how the US plans to tackle Iran over the revelation it is building a second enrichment facility. The Obama Administration will tell Tehran this week that it must open a newly revealed nuclear enrichment site to international inspectors ''within weeks''.

The Administration will also seek full access to the people who put together the clandestine plant.

The US demands, following the news on Friday of the secret plant near the holy city of Qom, set the stage for the next chapter of a diplomatic drama that has toughened the West's posture towards Iran. The first direct negotiations between the US and Iran in 30 years are scheduled to open in Geneva on Thursday. Five other major powers are also involved in the talks.

On Saturday, Iran's nuclear chief, Ali Akbar Salehi, said the International Atomic Energy Agency would be invited to visit the site near Qom that US intelligence agencies estimate was designed to house 3000 centrifuges, enough to produce about one bomb's worth of material a year.

But Dr Salehi offered no timetable for the visit, leaving open the possibility that Iran might remove incriminating evidence from the installation, which is on military land, before the inspectors visit. Iranian officials have said the site is for peaceful purposes.

Dr Salehi said the facility was being constructed as a ''precautionary measure in case of an unwanted incident against our nuclear program''. He estimated that the plant, which was ''not an industrial-scale'' unit, would be operational in two years.

From the White House to Europe, senior officials were pushing to exploit the disclosure of the project as a turning point.

The most urgent issue, current and former officials agree, is immediate access to the tunnel complex that Iran now acknowledges is a uranium enrichment plant under construction.

''This reopens the whole question of the military's involvement in the Iranian nuclear program,'' said David Kay, a nuclear specialist who led the fruitless US search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

It is still unclear what incentives the US and its allies may offer Iran if it opens, and ultimately dismantles, its nuclear program.

On Saturday, Mr Obama said in his weekly radio address that he remained committed to building a relationship with Tehran.

''My offer of a serious, meaningful dialogue to resolve this issue remains open,'' he said. ''But Iran must now co-operate fully with the International Atomic Energy Agency, and take action to demonstrate its peaceful intentions.''

In an interview with CNN on Friday, the US Defence Secretary, Robert Gates, said any possible military action against Iran would only delay Tehran's nuclear program by about one to three years.

''There is no military option that does anything more than buy time,'' Mr Gates said.
Iran heightens nuclear tension with missile tests

FANTASTIC FANTASTIC! If only they had launched it with a bit more power, and 2degrees more towards the east: We'd no longer have a Sderot, but a Deadrot! Ahahahakekekekeke.
 

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I haven't heard much credible evidence to suggest otherwise. People here, and the moronic Arabs who lost, tend to assume that the election was fixed because their man didn't win.
You're joking, right?
 

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