Christian music (2 Viewers)

[hiphophooray123]

my friend is a christian rapper

i hate christian music.

 

[Lukybear]

Found Newsboys, which are awesome band. Grammy winning.

There are quite a few very nice christian rappers out there; Lecraee, which is all that i can think of now.

 

[Sprangler]

50 cent

 

[raniaaa]

switchfoot, the afters, soulframe, and lifehouse

 

[fallingstar]

hmmmm.. seen lecrae, but rap isn't my thing

 

[David Spade]

are you people actually serious

like this isnt some hilarious joke thread?

 

[Cowbell]

anyone into christian music?

heres a good piece of music abt christians
YouTube - NOFX: You're wrong

 

[Klutsov]

Unfortunatly, most contemporary christian music is cliched lyrically (especially HILLSONG)

There is some good contemporary christian music though

 

[Daipire]

No, christian music is one of the main reasons i don't like christians

Every video the crowd stands there with their eyes shut and hands up like pretentious douchebags, im tremendously sorry if i've offended anyone, but i just don't like it

Religion should stay out of songs and movies (passion of the christ)

 

[Arctopus]

No, christian music is one of the main reasons i don't like christians

Every video the crowd stands there with their eyes shut and hands up like pretentious douchebags, im tremendously sorry if i've offended anyone, but i just don't like it

Religion should stay out of songs and movies (passion of the christ)

The Bible explains that by lifting your hands you are acknowledging Christ, so when you see people doing that then that is the way they are choosing to acknowledge / worship / whatever Christ. By calling the people that choose to express themselves in that way pretentious douchebags in fact just makes you the pretentious douchebag with the added bonus of being completely ignorant and bigoted.

Religion should stay out of songs and movies, hey? And you give one example; THE MOVIE THAT TELLS THE STORY OF JESUS' CRUCIFICTION?! What, is that the only movie you know that contains traces of religion? No wait, I think you're on to something! Let's get rid of any music that has any roots in religion, or contains religious themes or lyrics - what a good idea! Especially considering that the first people to ever notate music were Christian institutions such as Monasteries. I truly believe you are on to something here. Songs containing religious lyrics or the names of religious figures, even for blasphemous impact, should be done away with. That's right; you want to express yourself through a religious medium, whether you're religious or not? Yeah, forget about it, douchebag.


Next on the agenda; RELIGION IN MOVIES OR MASS MEDIA. Yes, all those movies that have a religious storyline, religious character/s, hell, any movie that names a religion or religious figure should just be done away with; burn it all I say. Not only do you lose movies that portray religious stories or experiences but you lose movies that contain religious satire such as the Life of Brian or Dogma. What's that, you like to laugh when people satirise religious institutions or beliefs? Well too bad, shut up and be serious.

You obviously thought out your previous statement very well because I can find no fault within it.

 

[Lukybear]

Found this new band; Superchick. I am hooked completely to one of their songs, Crawl. Awesome as.

 

[jmakowiak]

Hmmm, christian music. Let's see.

I dislike Christian music on two levels.

As music, without looking at the message behind everything, every single song sounds the same. It's all just acoustic bullshit with the same lyrics, then the electric guitars come in and play similar riffs. ALL of hillsong's work is identical. The only good song is 'jesus is a friend of mine' and not because I believe in it, but because its quite hilarious and makes me rofl.

Then, when I do consider the message behind the music, it's obviously not making me want to consider christianity any more than any other influence. I agree with Daipire, who said:

Every video the crowd stands there with their eyes shut and hands up like pretentious douchebags

And that's exactly it. The only person not standing is the hillsong fan who was cursed by God at birth and born with a bone deficiency, making them unable to stand.

Nothing about that kind of music makes me feel good at all. If god exists, he would strike down anyone who listens to it with a loud "turn that shit off".

 

[Arctopus]

Hmmm, christian music. Let's see.

I dislike Christian music on two levels.

As music, without looking at the message behind everything, every single song sounds the same. It's all just acoustic bullshit with the same lyrics, then the electric guitars come in and play similar riffs. ALL of hillsong's work is identical. The only good song is 'jesus is a friend of mine' and not because I believe in it, but because its quite hilarious and makes me rofl.

Then, when I do consider the message behind the music, it's obviously not making me want to consider christianity any more than any other influence. I agree with Daipire, who said:



And that's exactly it. The only person not standing is the hillsong fan who was cursed by God at birth and born with a bone deficiency, making them unable to stand.

Nothing about that kind of music makes me feel good at all. If god exists, he would strike down anyone who listens to it with a loud "turn that shit off".

Your entire argument is invalid in that you claim to dislike Christian music but can only make reference to Hillsong; the Christian music that even Christians know sounds the same. The idea of Christian music is for the adherents to put their focus on God and not on the instrumental content. The reason why the lyrical content is often much the same is because that's what their focus is on; God, Jesus, the Bible. As for the reason why you don't connect with the lyrical content... well why would you? You obviously don't hold Christian beliefs so why would you connect with songs about praising and worshiping Jesus?

 

[jmakowiak]

Your entire argument is invalid in that you claim to dislike Christian music but can only make reference to Hillsong; the Christian music that even Christians know sounds the same.

I only reference Hillsong because if I was to make a list of all the christian music that sounds the same and that I dislike, my bitrate would exceed my required amount and i'd get a very large optus bill.

The idea of Christian music is for the adherents to put their focus on God and not on the instrumental content.

Thus why it makes glass shatter and my ears bleed, whether I pay attention to the lyrics or not.

The reason why the lyrical content is often much the same is because that's what their focus is on; God, Jesus, the Bible.

So then why does it make it any more appeasing to christians to hear the same words repeated? Sure, they take delight in hearing that they have recruited more members into the god squad, but it would be so much easier if new christian musicians just told people they were christian and left the music to those more talented.

As for the reason why you don't connect with the lyrical content... well why would you? You obviously don't hold Christian beliefs so why would you connect with songs about praising and worshiping Jesus?

Congratulations. *places medal on Arctopus' head* you have successfully repeated what I just said.

 

[Daipire]

Your entire argument is invalid in that you claim to dislike Christian music but can only make reference to Hillsong; the Christian music that even Christians know sounds the same. The idea of Christian music is for the adherents to put their focus on God and not on the instrumental content. The reason why the lyrical content is often much the same is because that's what their focus is on; God, Jesus, the Bible. As for the reason why you don't connect with the lyrical content... well why would you? You obviously don't hold Christian beliefs so why would you connect with songs about praising and worshiping Jesus?

Acrtopus, calm down man, i wrote like three sentences and you wrote three paragraphs in rebuttle, you link Christian music to the theoligies that religion teaches, when really, Hillsong and whatever else are into the sins that is greed just like every other band. Until the Hillsong abominations (or songs as you call them ) go out for free, there is not real way they can be christian.

It's kinda like me saying "I support Kevin Rudd, but I don't agree with his sorry speech." You can't pick and choose what you want out of religion, the commandments, although basterdised into the "believe in me and you'll go to heaven" or whatever it is, still have an affect on christians. Hillsong may very well be against adultery, murder and whatever else, so long as they are greedy little buggers, they aren't perfectly christian. isn't there like a dozen things that say something about rich people not being christian (something about the eye of a needle?)

And really, who keeps that exact phrase in their heads when they wave their arms around, they're probably thinking, i really like this song, or i feel close to god right now because of Hillsong, and BAM (the dirt is gone!) idolism.

BUT, you're probably going to tenfold everything i've written here by using the vast number of pre-made arguments that are stored inside your precious bible, can't say i didnt try eh?

 

[fallingstar]

Acrtopus, calm down man, i wrote like three sentences and you wrote three paragraphs in rebuttle, you link Christian music to the theoligies that religion teaches, when really, Hillsong and whatever else are into the sins that is greed just like every other band. Until the Hillsong abominations (or songs as you call them ) go out for free, there is not real way they can be christian.

It's kinda like me saying "I support Kevin Rudd, but I don't agree with his sorry speech." You can't pick and choose what you want out of religion, the commandments, although basterdised into the "believe in me and you'll go to heaven" or whatever it is, still have an affect on christians. Hillsong may very well be against adultery, murder and whatever else, so long as they are greedy little buggers, they aren't perfectly christian. isn't there like a dozen things that say something about rich people not being christian (something about the eye of a needle?)

And really, who keeps that exact phrase in their heads when they wave their arms around, they're probably thinking, i really like this song, or i feel close to god right now because of Hillsong, and BAM (the dirt is gone!) idolism.

BUT, you're probably going to tenfold everything i've written here by using the vast number of pre-made arguments that are stored inside your precious bible, can't say i didnt try eh?

yeah it says that it is harder for a rich man to get into heaven than a camel to get thorugh an eye of a needle. which doesn't mean it is impossible to get into heaven if you're rich, which you would understand this verse to mean if you didn't take into account the cultural refernce here. in biblical times, "the eye of a needle" was a common term for a doorway, a sort-of rounded arch, which was narrow and therefore hard to get a camel through. taking this into account, this verse means it can be hard to get inot heaven if you're very wealthy, as you can be offerred many temptations because of your wealth.

which is basically what you're saying about hillsong's amass of wealth, leading to greed etc.

 

[settle*precious]

Hillsong. =\ hm. No comment, lol.


Planetshakers are even worse! The lead singer was a porno addict who pretended to be dying of chronic cancer for almost a year and ended up stealing money from many, many people. Yeah, awesome role model, eh?

No joke, he sung. On stage. WITH AN OXYGEN VENTILATOR ATTACHED TO HIS FACE. And his wife would drive him to "chemo" where he'd ask her to stay in the car while he went and sat in the waiting room for a couple of hours.
*head explodes*



Paramore
Angels and Airwaves
UnderOath
Switchfoot
+more

 

[jmakowiak]

Acrtopus, calm down man, i wrote like three sentences and you wrote three paragraphs in rebuttle, you link Christian music to the theoligies that religion teaches, when really, Hillsong and whatever else are into the sins that is greed just like every other band. Until the Hillsong abominations (or songs as you call them ) go out for free, there is not real way they can be christian.

It's kinda like me saying "I support Kevin Rudd, but I don't agree with his sorry speech." You can't pick and choose what you want out of religion, the commandments, although basterdised into the "believe in me and you'll go to heaven" or whatever it is, still have an affect on christians. Hillsong may very well be against adultery, murder and whatever else, so long as they are greedy little buggers, they aren't perfectly christian. isn't there like a dozen things that say something about rich people not being christian (something about the eye of a needle?)

And really, who keeps that exact phrase in their heads when they wave their arms around, they're probably thinking, i really like this song, or i feel close to god right now because of Hillsong, and BAM (the dirt is gone!) idolism.

BUT, you're probably going to tenfold everything i've written here by using the vast number of pre-made arguments that are stored inside your precious bible, can't say i didnt try eh? </SPAN>

Well said - I was thinking the same thing. They were satirised on The Chaser's War on Everything in much the same way - open your hearts to God an your wallets to us. I guess a quick summation of that argument would be "if they were truly that keen about spreading the word of god, they would do it for free."

To ANY CHRISTIAN who dares to argue with me - how can you account for the fact that an economically disadvantaged family does not get to experience your fantastic message (sarcasm intended) whereas the rich doctor may take his children to hear some [crappy] music? And you can't say Hillsong needs the money to appeal to a wider range of people - as "christians", you should beleive that no-one is excluded.

You just can't account for that, and like Daipire says, until Hillsong concerts are free, they are a bunch of hippocrites.

 

[mcflystargirl]

yeah it says that it is harder for a rich man to get into heaven than a camel to get thorugh an eye of a needle. which doesn't mean it is impossible to get into heaven if you're rich, which you would understand this verse to mean if you didn't take into account the cultural refernce here. in biblical times, "the eye of a needle" was a common term for a doorway, a sort-of rounded arch, which was narrow and therefore hard to get a camel through. taking this into account, this verse means it can be hard to get inot heaven if you're very wealthy, as you can be offerred many temptations because of your wealth.

which is basically what you're saying about hillsong's amass of wealth, leading to greed etc.

tbh you are heaps over interpreting this passage, i am actually writing a talk on it at the moment i see it more as this (as do like 99% of christians i speak to)

If you have anything in your heart that you care about more then jesus (reading the parable before this verse the rich man did) you can not get into heaven

 

[jmakowiak]

If you have anything in your heart that you care about more then jesus (reading the parable before this verse the rich man did) you can not get into heaven</SPAN>

Hence why Christians are so annoying... god comes before everything. can't get along with them because there's always something more important than you.