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Is murder wrong if the dead person wasn't going to or could not have kids and contribute to the gene pool?
 

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Is murder wrong if the dead person wasn't going to or could not have kids and contribute to the gene pool?
If that was directed at me in response to my post:

I'm saying no action is intrinsically, objectively "wrong"

It's just that those who had an inherent opposition to murder were more genetically fit
 

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you're just a shit iron aren't you
Oh you poor thing, you've only ever encountered two human beings with souls before. Sit yourself down and I'll make you a cup of warm cocoa.
 

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ugh morality is a load of shit regardless of whether god exists because there is no presupposition-free 'ought', end of story.

We have evolved to have a subjective sense of justice. I inherently feel that murder is 'wrong' because, in the times of my distant ancestors, if murder happened very often then the chances of myself or other people in my tribe (upon whom my subsistence depended) dying would be large, and hence those who were opposed to murder were more likely to survive and contribute to the next generation's gene pool.

Religious "morality" (and pretty much all morality for that matter) is merely just an intellectual manifestation of this sense of justice. It's just a way of trying to prove that your sense of justice is "right" and being able to tell people why they should follow it.

Killing people is wrong?
Why?
um...
ah! because of god!

With religious morality its either this, or something that they believe will be good for society e.g. self-restraint etc

If you told the average idiot that murder is "immoral" they will pretty much ALL agree with you, even though they are likely to be philosophic illiterates. They are inherently opposed to murder. this is why it is so easy for people to accept religious morality; not because of the supposed brilliance of god, but because religion just moulds itself around our natural concepts of good or right, and like I said when this isn't the case it is the result of some concept about the need to control society, but this is a load of shit because order is emergent.
That would be a brilliant theory if it weren't for the fact that one of those guys, like Jesus or whoever was right. I'm not very familiar with many religions and their history, but how do you explain some of Jesus' miracles recorded by Christian and non-Christian alike, and the stuff that happened to the Egyptians with the 10 plagues, recorded by both the Jews and Egyptians?
 

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That would be a brilliant theory if it weren't for the fact that one of those guys, like Jesus or whoever was right. I'm not very familiar with many religions and their history, but how do you explain some of Jesus' miracles recorded by Christian and non-Christian alike, and the stuff that happened to the Egyptians with the 10 plagues, recorded by both the Jews and Egyptians?
No recordings of the Egyptians and the Plagues or even the Jews being slaves in Egypt outside of the bible fucking lol

Jesus was a trickster, it's easy to do 'miracles'

What's more likely, someone did a bit of sleight of hand or actually suspended the laws of nature?
 

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I thought they'd figured out how the plagues could have come about naturally.

A chain reaction involving a volcano or red algae or something.
 

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I thought they'd figured out how the plagues could have come about naturally.

A chain reaction involving a volcano or red algae or something.
if you read the old testament carefully, you can interpret all the info about their god as actually being a volcano
 

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thats because you're an unthinking cunt
No I just don't feel like anything you said makes me feel a need to answer. All I feel drawn to do is point out how shit that tattoo is, and it really is a shit tattoo. The real irony is that only an unthinking cunt would brand themselves with something as shit as that.
 

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