We should get rid of ANZAC day (2 Viewers)

[Blastus]

We've no longer a need for a day that glorifies war and shows how we sent thousands of our youth to die in vain in a British-led war.

We have Armistice day, a day to mourn the dead and to maintain that we never go to war again.

We shut down shops and cease trading on ANZAC day out of a sign of respect, when only free trade and mutual interdependence can make sure we never slip into a global conflict again.

This holiday is jingoistic, militaristic and out of step with the civilized world. We should not promote it or glorify it.

 

[davidbarnes]

You are an idiot and a disgrace to Australia.

 

[stampede]

in b4 bogans glorifying straya m8888888

 

[tommykins]

obviously no other soldiers in the world have the mateship and courage our aussie battlahz have ay

fuck this day pisses me off

 

[Lolsmith]

in b4 bogans glorifying straya m8888888

You can't say "inb4" when someone's already done it

There aren't enough young Libs or anyone willing to argue a separate opinion for this to be an interesting discussion on the boards anymore. Such a pity. Wouldn't mind seeing Kwayera ragequit again

 

[Blastus]

Hahahahahaha she even updated her FB status today in an attack on me as she's still SO ANGRY at me for saying she was pro war for supporting anzac day

 

[Blastus]

To copy and paste:

Again, how you interpret it is a matter of perspective. I can see how it exists to recognise the suffering of those who fought on all fronts in WW1, and to remember those who died, but not to question the circumstances under which they died


http://badassoftheweek.com/lighthorse.html

^ Is worth a read to understand the conditions these people were in and the serious badassitude of the average Australian soldier.

The nefarious undertone of ANZAC day is one of nationalist sentiment, one that is not present in Armistice day. I think grace, civility and a spirit of interdependence would lead us to remember and commemorate the war dead as a global community, not to single out the losses or soldiers of any one country on any one particular day. Nationalistic and jingoistic divisions are particularly pernicious and dangerous ones, and for this reason alone I will always hold Armistice day as a solemn recognition of the horror of war and the global toll as a consequence, over recognising the losses of two [maybe three if there's a cursory reference to Turkey] countries.

I just find the message of "never again" to be far more powerful than "lest we forget"

But perhaps you disagree.

 

[Chemical Ali]

The average person isn't really cognitively equipped to make the above distinction between ANZAC and Remembrance days. Instead they NEED an anzac day to strengthen a national identity, without which motivations for things like altruism would be greatly decreased.

iuno I can't think of a good devil's advocate position for this one

 

[Chemical Ali]

copypasta from a facebook status:

Today we honor those who were destined for greatness. The Soldiers of the past and present. Who else is proud to be a you beaut Aussie? . LEST WE FORGET

Is this really jingoistic and militaristic?

 

[davidbarnes]

Hahahahahaha she even updated her FB status today in an attack on me as she's still SO ANGRY at me for saying she was pro war for supporting anzac day

Do you not have family who have served in the ANZAC corps? Even if you don't, you shouldn't be such a douche about it and show a bit of respect.

 

[tommykins]

lol white knight

 

[Blastus]

Do you not have family who have served in the ANZAC corps? Even if you don't, you shouldn't be such a douche about it and show a bit of respect.

That false equivalence is why this argument is so prolonged

 

[SylviaB]

you should write an article for menzies house about this

oh wait

 

[davidbarnes]

"you should write an article for menzies house about this

oh wait"

Ahahaha many laughs are being had currently at reading his stuff and his desire for right wing friend groups that are not the young Liberals.

 

[Chemical Ali]

Do you not have family who have served in the ANZAC corps? Even if you don't, you shouldn't be such a douche about it and show a bit of respect.

I have a bayonet from my Nan's brother that was used at Toobruk, that doesn't change anything being discussed ITT

 

[SylviaB]

"you should write an article for menzies house about this

oh wait"

Ahahaha many laughs are being had currently at reading his stuff and his desire for right wing friend groups that are not the young Liberals.

the day I meet you rainman

is the day my non-aggression principle takes the day off

 

[Blastus]

you should write an article for menzies house about this

oh wait

completely erased off the internet COMPLETELY. Can't even find the article I wrote on dropbox. I pissed off everyone all over the internet.

 

[Blastus]

you should write an article for menzies house about this

oh wait

completely erased off the internet COMPLETELY. Can't even find the article I wrote on dropbox. I pissed off everyone all over the internet.

 

[Cianyx]

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1685787

y/n?

WP mods are thought nazis.

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[davidbarnes]

WP mods are thought nazis.

OT: I fucking love cookies

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