How will doing low scaling subjects affect my ATAR? (1 Viewer)

[Pheonix45]

I am really worried because most my subjects don't scale well and if I don't get 90+, it is going to drag my atar down significantly? I popped all marks below 90 in an ATAR calculator and I got an atar of like 60 Does this mean I need to replace with some high scaling subjects? I really like the subjects I picked, but I don't want to take the risk of getting scaled down if i don't get 90+. Someone told me you should be doing at least 2 sciences, and at least Extension 1 Mathematics if you want to get an high atar.

 

[Pheonix45]

And I popped 40 for HSC mark in Ext 2 Math, and it got scaled up to like 80, and I put 70 for my other low scaling subject, and it said <30

 

[clry]

I am really worried because most my subjects don't scale well and if I don't get 90+, it is going to drag my atar down significantly? I popped all marks below 90 in an ATAR calculator and I got an atar of like 60 Does this mean I need to replace with some high scaling subjects? I really like the subjects I picked, but I don't want to take the risk of getting scaled down if i don't get 90+. Someone told me you should be doing at least 2 sciences, and at least Extension 1 Mathematics if you want to get an high atar.

It's too late to change your subjects now, obviously. Your raw internal marks don't matter, just how you're ranking and how your school performs in the HSC. All you can do is do the best you can, and seeing as though you chose subjects you like, you should be putting more effort in, as the work shouldn't be too upsetting.
Basically. Subjects are chosen. Any combination of subjects can get any ATAR. All you can do is try your best.

And I popped 40 for HSC mark in Ext 2 Math, and it got scaled up to like 80

As for this, Extension maths is only one unit, so it's out of 50, not 100

 

[Pheonix45]

No, my school is giving us options to change. I'm in Year 10.

 

[Pheonix45]

It's too late to change your subjects now, obviously. Your raw internal marks don't matter, just how you're ranking and how your school performs in the HSC. All you can do is do the best you can, and seeing as though you chose subjects you like, you should be putting more effort in, as the work shouldn't be too upsetting.
Basically. Subjects are chosen. Any combination of subjects can get any ATAR. All you can do is try your best.



As for this, Extension maths is only one unit, so it's out of 50, not 100

I chose 2 units of Ext 2 Math, which is 100 marks. http://www.atarcalculator.com.au/

That's the calculator I used.

 

[powlmao]

you can get any atar with any set of subjects

 

[Pheonix45]

But how? Get 40 in Ext 2 Math and look at how well it scales. Get 40 in any other subject and you have basically failed.

 

[powlmao]

but 40 in ext 2 is fucking hard.

You don't understand that BOS made scalling so you can get any ATAR with any set of subjects.

what subjects do you do.

 

[clry]

But how? Get 40 in Ext 2 Math and look at how well it scales. Get 40 in any other subject and you have basically failed.

You're looking at a 1 unit subject, meaning it's out of 50. 40/50 = 80% bud. But that aside, did it not occur to you that you actually need to get the marks for the 'scaling' to work in your favour?

If you really don't get over the hump, then there's no point doing that subject. A 90 in say, general maths, will be better than a 70 in 2 unit. Because yes, the difficulty is that different. Probably more. So choose subjects you love, so therefore subjects you'll want to work in, and therefore get good marks in. Honestly, NEVER choose a subject because it 'scales well'.

 

[RivalryofTroll]

I am really worried because most my subjects don't scale well and if I don't get 90+, it is going to drag my atar down significantly? I popped all marks below 90 in an ATAR calculator and I got an atar of like 60 Does this mean I need to replace with some high scaling subjects? I really like the subjects I picked, but I don't want to take the risk of getting scaled down if i don't get 90+. Someone told me you should be doing at least 2 sciences, and at least Extension 1 Mathematics if you want to get an high atar.

That person is referring to the Asian 4/5 or what I call the Classic HSC Combo Package...
Adv English
Ext 1/2 Maths
Chemistry
Physics
Insert Filler Subject Here - Economics/ Modern/Ancient History, Biology, Engineering Studies

You can get a high ATAR with any subject combination but there are certain subjects that scale higher due to specific reasons such as the amount of people doing it or difficulty...

 

[powlmao]

You're looking at a 1 unit subject, meaning it's out of 50. 40/50 = 80% bud. But that aside, did it not occur to you that you actually need to get the marks for the 'scaling' to work in your favour?

If you really don't get over the hump, then there's no point doing that subject. A 90 in say, general maths, will be better than a 70 in 2 unit. Because yes, the difficulty is that different. Probably more. So choose subjects you love, so therefore subjects you'll want to work in, and therefore get good marks in. Honestly, NEVER choose a subject because it 'scales well'.

This.

Ask anyone, Any ATAR is possible with any subjects.

 

[Pheonix45]

The subjects I a doing next year are

Adv English
General Maths
Legal Studies
Business Studies
Chemistry
Ancient History

 

[clry]

The subjects I a doing next year are

Adv English
General Maths
Legal Studies
Business Studies
Chemistry
Ancient History

Chem will be tough, unless you enjoy/are good at science.. Legal and Business are pretty easy to get a band 6 in

 

[MrBrightside]

Do your best boys and girls, that is all. Scaling is there to make all subjects on the same level playing field. IF your doing a much harder course like MX2, of course if you get 40, it's going scale to 80 because its a much harder course to achieve that 40, That 40 may be equivalent to a high 87 in IPT. Because IPT is a much more relaxed subject (depending if you like it or not).

IT would be unfair for someone to get 40 in IPT and it would = the same mark of a 40 in MX2, BECAUSE DIFFERENT subjects have different DIFFICULTY levels and require more devotion to learn their skills / content / practice. That is why scaling is in place. Otherwise it would be an unfair system.


Choose subjects you enjoy, that's what I did, and I actually enjoy studying for my subjects, cause I'm motivated and I guarantee I will do well in all of them. Stop making these threads because the only thing that's going to affect your ATAR is yourself. Study hard and see the great results later, don't study, and you'll see a different story / longer tedious pathway to your desired career.

 

[Pheonix45]

Chem will be tough, unless you enjoy/are good at science.. Legal and Business are pretty easy to get a band 6 in

I want to get into pharmacy, that's why I picked it and plus I am good at it.

 

[enoilgam]

First, you can get any ATAR with any combination of subjects. Secondly, you should not choose subjects based on scaling. I remember I chose chemistry because I thought it scaled well and I believed I needed to do a science subject. In the second week of year 11, I suddenly realised what a huge mistake it was a changed to something which suited me better. To better answer your question, read this thread, which I reakon all people should read before choosing their subjects in year 10 http://community.boredofstudies.org...-I-get-a-decent-ATAR-with-these-subjects-quot

 

[Pheonix45]

Thanks guys Feel much better now. I was so worried I was going to get scaled down for doing subjects with poor scaling.

 

[Shadowdude]

The principle of scaling is to estimate how people would go if they took a random subject. To take an example, if you got the entire state to do General Maths - obviously those who do Maths, MX1 or MX2 will get higher marks than those who do General - hence, they scale higher than General.

That's how it works, in a nutshell.

 

[_deloso]

That person is referring to the Asian 4/5 or what I call the Classic HSC Combo Package...
Adv English
Ext 1/2 Maths
Chemistry
Physics
Insert Filler Subject Here - Economics/ Modern/Ancient History, Biology, Engineering Studies

You can get a high ATAR with any subject combination but there are certain subjects that scale higher due to specific reasons such as the amount of people doing it or difficulty...

That would be me

and OP: you can get high atar with any subject.. it's all about the rank. and atar calculators are vague. You can't really try and estimate you atar until you receive your final HSC marks.

 

[tambam]

You're looking at a 1 unit subject, meaning it's out of 50. 40/50 = 80% bud. But that aside, did it not occur to you that you actually need to get the marks for the 'scaling' to work in your favour?
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No, if you do ext2 maths, your ext1 and ext 2 marks gets doubled, so it effectively counts for 2 units each.
You don't do the 2u exam