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Left out proving for n=1 and the other statements. That the simple way?

definitely not lol
also idk if that can be considered right because you have no way of knowing that huge fraction is always a whole number

hey i did this question when i sat the baulko trial i was so happy to get it out.
lets see ur working
 

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Just going to skip to the second step:
2. Let Where M is an integer

Prove true for n = k+1







Using result from 2.



But since



Now subbing back in









therefore divisible by 9.
 
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definitely not lol
also idk if that can be considered right because you have no way of knowing that huge fraction is always a whole number

lets see ur working
Yea I wasn't sure about that fraction, but I cbf doing it again >.>
 

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let me find it. its under a stack of papers i did. i will post my solution in 20 minutes after dinner. tOnyy do u go to baulko?
 

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let me find it. its under a stack of papers i did. i will post my solution in 20 minutes after dinner. tOnyy do u go to baulko?
nah i just know the working cause i asked hup for solution
 

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from assumption:

prove true for k+1:
hence prove is divisible by 9









hence divisible by 9 (since A and k integers).

conclusion: blah blah blah
 
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from assumption:

prove true for k+1:
hence prove is divisible by 9









hence divisible by 9 (since A and k integers).

conclusion: blah blah blah
that is better and you can shorten it

 

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From the Girraween 2011 Trial (No solutions) =[

In how many ways can the letters of the word MMAATTHH be arranged
(i) Without restriction
(ii) With at least one pair of repeated letters together
(iii) With no pair of repeated letters together

Can anyone confirm my answers:
(i) 2520
(ii) 396
(iii)864
 

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I think that question is actually reasonably hard, I can't think of a way to do it without using the "inclusion-exclusion" principle, something that isn't really in the course (although we did it in class in case it might come up in a problem like that).

Essentially think of a venn diagram like thing with 4 circles (although it doesnt quite work that simply) with each circle representing say, the cases where the letters M and M are put together. Then take their intersections, etc.

Basically:
Number of things where the X and X are together for a particular X is 7!/2!2!2!.
Number of things with XX and YY are 6!/2!2!
Number of things with XX and YY and ZZ together are 5!/2!
Number of things with XX, YY, ZZ, WW all together is 4!

Then the number of things with at least one pair of letters together is
4 * 7!/2!2!2! - 6 * 6!/2!2! + 4 * 5!/2! - 4! = 1656 (inclusion exclusion principle?)

And then when there are no repeated letters together is 2520 - 1656 = 864
 

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I think that question is actually reasonably hard, I can't think of a way to do it without using the "inclusion-exclusion" principle, something that isn't really in the course (although we did it in class in case it might come up in a problem like that).

Essentially think of a venn diagram like thing with 4 circles (although it doesnt quite work that simply) with each circle representing say, the cases where the letters M and M are put together. Then take their intersections, etc.

Basically:
Number of things where the X and X are together for a particular X is 7!/2!2!2!.
Number of things with XX and YY are 6!/2!2!
Number of things with XX and YY and ZZ together are 5!/2!
Number of things with XX, YY, ZZ, WW all together is 4!

Then the number of things with at least one pair of letters together is
4 * 7!/2!2!2! - 6 * 6!/2!2! + 4 * 5!/2! - 4! = 1656 (inclusion exclusion principle?)

And then when there are no repeated letters together is 2520 - 1656 = 864
this question is slightly annoying bcuz part ii is hard and if you get it wrong and use complementary to get part iii you end up getting both wrong.
 

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