School ATAR estimations. (1 Viewer)

SunnyScience

Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2011
Messages
706
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Just a couple of question, please :):

1. How do they work?
2. Who does them?
3. Do all school do them?
4. When are they done?
5. How many times are they done?
6. Are the accurate?
7. What are they based off?

Thank you. :)
 

enoilgam

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Feb 11, 2011
Messages
11,906
Location
Mare Crisium
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2010
1) An estimate is just that - an estimate. The school usually uses past results to determine your marks in your individual subjects and then your ATAR. This method is pretty inaccurate, because each cohort has individual strengths and weaknesses. However, most methods are pretty unreliable, because there is no definitive way of converting ranks into an ATAR.

2) Usually the cirriculum co-ordinator (sometimes known as a study co-ordinator, learning co-ordinator etc). Sometimes career advisors, year co-ordinators/advisors or even AP's do them

3) All schools offer them (some scholarships and med applications require them). At some schools they are available by request only whilst a few do them for all students.

4) Generally towards the end of the year (after the trials is the best time) but they can be done earlier if needed.

5) As above, any ATAR estimate you get is likely to be inaccurate as the processes are unreliable. An ATAR estimate should be taken with a grain of salt and be used as a general indication of what you might get.

6) It depends on the method - High Schools use past results and compare them to your rankings. Estimates done on BOS use ranks, school rank and other relevant info (trial marks is the main one). In my opinion, a BOS estimate is slightly better than a school one (many people will probably disagree with me here)

So overall the process isnt very reliable, just see it is a general idea of your possible mark.
 
Last edited:

SunnyScience

Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2011
Messages
706
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
1) An estimate is just that - an estimate. The school usually uses past results to determine your marks in your individual subjects and then your ATAR. This method is pretty inaccurate, because each cohort has individual strengths and weaknesses. However, most methods are pretty unreliable, because there is no definitive way of converting ranks into an ATAR.

2) Usually the cirriculum co-ordinator (sometimes known as a study co-ordinator, learning co-orderinator etc). Sometimes career advisors, year co-ordinators/advisors or even AP's do them

3) All schools offer them (some scholarships and med applications require them). At some schools they are available by request only whilst a few do them for all students.

4) Generally towards the end of the year (after the trials is the best time) but they can be done earlier if needed.

5) As above, any ATAR estimate you get is likely to be inaccurate as the processes are unreliable. An ATAR estimate should be taken with a grain of salt and be used as a general indication of what you might get.

6) It depends on the method - High Schools use past results and compare them to your rankings. Estimates done on BOS use ranks, school rank and other relevant info (trial marks is the main one). In my opinion, a BOS estimate is slightly better than a school one (many people will probably disagree with me here)

So overall the process isnt very reliable, just see it is a general idea of your possible mark.


thank you :) repped.
 

LoveHateSchool

Retired Sept '14
Joined
Jan 30, 2009
Messages
5,136
Location
The Fires of Mordor
Gender
Female
HSC
2012
Uni Grad
2016
Some schools are great at giving on spot estimates. particularly selectives find it easy to give very close estimates because there is not a massive divide in student ability, and HSC results remain consistently good over time.
 

someth1ng

Retired Nov '14
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
5,558
Location
Adelaide, Australia
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Uni Grad
2021
Some schools are great at giving on spot estimates. particularly selectives find it easy to give very close estimates because there is not a massive divide in student ability, and HSC results remain consistently good over time.
This would depend on the school - there's someone on BOS that was estimated 97.20 and got 99.70 in the end. It really depends.
 

enoilgam

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Feb 11, 2011
Messages
11,906
Location
Mare Crisium
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2010
Also, its important to remember that schools sometimes underestimate people in order to encourage them to work harder.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top