iPhone 5 (4 Viewers)

[Kostie100]

Getting one first day. Apple has the best ecosystem, intuitive OS, customer service, reliability and app store. Im sold.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409651,00.asp

 

[Yeah Buddy]

AHAHAHAHA lolsmith biggest apple fanboy out. defending apple at its best. Apple is dying. Only their laptops are good. umad?

 

[Sanical]

ahahaha

 

[ClockworkSoldier]

Getting one first day. Apple has the best ecosystem, intuitive OS, customer service, reliability and app store. Im sold.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409651,00.asp

Ecosystem? Only useful if you have more than one iDevice. Do you have an iPad or iPod touch or something?

Intuitive OS - Android is very similar in the way it functions. A lot of recent additions to iOS were taken directly from Android, fyi, iirc.

 

[atar90plus]

This is awesome

 

[Lolsmith]

@lolsmith, yeah because the positive first impressions are flooding the news articles.. true innovation. Please feel free and brief us on the new features, apart from the bigger screen and lte that samsung s3 already has.

Not everything is about hardware man. Everyone really seems to get caught up in that aspect. Apple make the best mobile operating system by far. I've used Android and it is much less intuitive than iOS, plus developing for Android is fuck off annoying in comparison (personally, I'm looking into dev'ing for iOS, so this is an important thing). Samsung don't even make an operating system, so they have the opportunity to funnel manpower into hardware. Besides that, the Retina display is better than the Galaxy's AMOLED one. The resolution is slightly larger (I'm talking about 10% here) in terms of dimensions, but is actually smaller than the iPhone 5's in terms of ppi, albeit by a very slight margin. The iPhone 5 is thinner and lighter than the SG3, let alone its predecessor.

Not everything is about screen size, which is why I made the point earlier that if you want a huge screen, just get a goddamn tablet. It's cheaper and you look like less of an idiot using it.

The difference between the phones in terms of hardware is pretty negligible. If Google (not Samsung) made an OS that was as crisp and well-designed as Apple, then I would use it, if the dimensions of their phone were good. They currently are not and the operating system pales in comparison. The only thing I would say is better on the SG3 is the battery and the fact that it has flash.

Unfortunately, I honestly believe it's a main reason for Apple's success.

and you'd be wrong

It is a very pretty and well made phone, but overall there are much better out on the market.

Sure, we're grateful for what they did to the smartphone market, but if you reinvent the wheel successfully, you should continue to lead the pack or get out of the way. They're charging more than most companies for tech that's been out for months.

No they aren't. iOS 6 has not been out for months, for starters. So what if they're charging more? People are willing to pay because there a myriad of bonuses you get when you buy a phone where every piece of it, hardware and software, is made by the same company. If anything goes wrong with it (or if you're a fucking moron that drops it), you go to the same store and they'll diagnose whether it's hardware or software. Then they'll fix it.

 

[atar90plus]

Lol going to get that

 

[atar90plus]

This phone will be mine LOL

 

[Lolsmith]

AHAHAHAHA lolsmith biggest apple fanboy out. defending apple at its best. Apple is dying. Only their laptops are good. umad?

I'm not a fanboy. I don't buy Apple products simply because it has a fruit on the back of them. I buy them because they're relevant to my needs (software development) and the fact that they have good products. I don't use it as a fashion accessory because that's fucking moronic. The only reason I'm posting itt is because a lot of people have this strange idea that Apple make objectively "bad" products, which simply isn't true.

 

[Azure]

Lol it's a mobile phone. The android fanboys are usually the worst.

I brush my teeth with Colgate tooth paste everything else sucks!!!!1111!!

Lol far out it feels like politics or religion are being discussed.

 

[kaz1]

Had a 3GS, it was a bitch of a phone. No customization other than what Apple let you do.

The apps, while a good selling point, I find pointless. The amount of crap you need to sift through to find a good app... How many truly successful, fun, useful etc. apps are out there? A handful. There are millions of other shit apps no-one cares about.

Only the successful ones migrate to Android because they were successful on another O.S. I'd rather have a majority of tried and tested good apps in the Android Market than piles of shit ones.

Though, I choose to stay unbiased. I got my little Galaxy Ace because the iPhone 4 was way too much for what I use my phone for.

The iPhone 5 release looks mundane to me. Longer screen, 720p internal camera and updated A6 chipset... Whoop-tee-doo. Same OS (though updated), same screen resolution etc., same apps, same functionality - now with an extra row of icons, better selfies and slightly faster!!! Wow.

Aesthetics aside - wtf. In my eyes, and in many others', this is nowhere as big as Apple hype it up to be.

Plus - New charger? Why? Lets just make almost every accessory available with a dock obsolete unless you spend MORE money on an ugly adapter. I know this is a very smart business move, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a dick move.

Bigger screen = yay! Black bars!

If you jailbreak you can customise the fuck out of an iphone.


In regards to the iphone 5 they pretty much got an iphone 4 and squashed it to make it flatter and have a bigger screen.

 

[Kostie100]

I'm not a fanboy. I don't buy Apple products simply because it has a fruit on the back of them. I buy them because they're relevant to my needs (software development) and the fact that they have good products. I don't use it as a fashion accessory because that's fucking moronic. The only reason I'm posting itt is because a lot of people have this strange idea that Apple make objectively "bad" products, which simply isn't true.

This

 

[Yeah Buddy]

I'm not a fanboy. I don't buy Apple products simply because it has a fruit on the back of them. I buy them because they're relevant to my needs (software development) and the fact that they have good products. I don't use it as a fashion accessory because that's fucking moronic. The only reason I'm posting itt is because a lot of people have this strange idea that Apple make objectively "bad" products, which simply isn't true.

okay, since you say your not. With your unbiased opinion, what do you think of the new Iphone compared to its predecessors and compared to Samsung Galaxy s3..cause in my opinion, the iphone 5 release was a huge disappointment, and sadly, no one said they made bad products, just that they their milking their brand name. I know its a marketing scheme, but as a consumer, I'd feel a little ripped off.

 

[moll.]

Because so many of you seem so hung up on the issue, can I just ask: who buys Apple for the hardware? All of their computers are shit in terms of basic specs. None of them would run even basic graphics for most modern games at a reasonable frame rate. The same goes for their portable devices. The only areas that Apple ever led the market in in hardware was in memory and miniaturisation, both of which the market has caught up with for several years now. The reason Apple is still at the top is because of design and functionality in software and also the ability to spot coming trends before competitors.
The iPhone 5 is a marginal improvement on what still remains their biggest drawcard: they were not only first (and hence got all the positive side-effects from lock-in and network effects), but also the most user-friendly. It's too difficult for competitors to beat such a winning formula, until Apple fundamentally missteps and leaves a hole open for them to exploit. No such hole exists, nor does the iPhone 5 open one; it simply doesn't increase their dominance.

 

[AAEldar]

(personally, I'm looking into dev'ing for iOS, so this is an important thing)

Objective C is so... bleh, hahaha. Not a huge fan.

But you're right, in terms of OS I think Apple are way ahead - iOS is great, and the usability of it is what the majority of the market needs (or even cares about).

Is the iPhone 5 revolutionary? Of course not. Will it earn them loads of money? Yep.

 

[Lolsmith]

okay, since you say your not. With your unbiased opinion, what do you think of the new Iphone compared to its predecessors and compared to Samsung Galaxy s3..cause in my opinion, the iphone 5 release was a huge disappointment, and sadly, no one said they made bad products, just that they their milking their brand name. I know its a marketing scheme, but as a consumer, I'd feel a little ripped off.

If you mean the iPhone 5 compared to its predecessors, I think it's not that big of a difference in terms of hardware (of course, the difference becomes greater the further you go back in generations, but that goes without saying). The computing power is impressive, but the Galaxy S3 trumps the iPhone 5. That's not something really to get hung up on though, since I've never had any issues with processing power or memory or storage on my iPhone 4. It's not necessarily overkill, but both phones have the sufficient amount of memory and processing power.

I've outlined a fair few points about the comparison between the two and I've held the idea for a long time now that what differentiates smartphones doesn't lie in hardware specs and benchmarks. It lies in software and the operating system, along with the development community of the respective OS. Hardware specific, the GS3 does have superior specs in most fields, however I don't include screen size in that. I would never say that Android is better, though.

Besides, the Galaxy is pretty ugly.

Because so many of you seem so hung up on the issue, can I just ask: who buys Apple for the hardware? All of their computers are shit in terms of basic specs. None of them would run even basic graphics for most modern games at a reasonable frame rate. The same goes for their portable devices. The only areas that Apple ever led the market in in hardware was in memory and miniaturisation, both of which the market has caught up with for several years now. The reason Apple is still at the top is because of design and functionality in software and also the ability to spot coming trends before competitors.
The iPhone 5 is a marginal improvement on what still remains their biggest drawcard: they were not only first (and hence got all the positive side-effects from lock-in and network effects), but also the most user-friendly. It's too difficult for competitors to beat such a winning formula, until Apple fundamentally missteps and leaves a hole open for them to exploit. No such hole exists, nor does the iPhone 5 open one; it simply doesn't increase their dominance.

Why would they design computers for gaming when a whole bunch of games that exist, aren't released for Mac, or are released at a later date? Your definition of "reasonable" might be different to mine as well. Their basic specs aren't shit either, unless you're solely interested in gaming which the majority of users aren't.

The rest I agree with.

 

[deloving]

Not everything is about screen size, which is why I made the point earlier that if you want a huge screen, just get a goddamn tablet. It's cheaper and you look like less of an idiot using it.

Lol nope. It might be just me, but screen size pretty much improves the experience of everything I do on a smartphone.

 

[Rixon]

I say we go back to the good old days of a Nokia brick that you can call/text/play snake on

maybe with a flashlight on top if you're feeling fancy

 

[Lolsmith]

Lol nope. It might be just me, but screen size pretty much improves the experience of everything I do on a smartphone.

Yeah, it's pretty much personal preference.

 

[ladiesman217_]

im more interested in integrating the iphone's processors into my brain tbh