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[Riproot]

Yeah, I'll scan it now (HSC 2009)...

Yay. Look at my link for where to send it. Haha

 

[someth1ng]

I got 14/15 in the MC...anyway...thanks mate

Marking Guidelines

 

[shaneuko]

"Middle" rank doesn't mean anything to BOS. Your rank doesn't mean anything unless you are first or last. Let's say you're in a cohort of 50, you are 25th ranked. You could be 5% behind first place, or you could be 20% behind first place. In both cases, you are still 25th, but being 5% behind first is much better than being 20% behind first.

So we can't tell if your internal mark will be 70% or not. It could be 90, or it could be 55. It depends on how many marks you gained at school and the difference in marks between students.

Thanks a lot for ur response, so I can see there is no matter about the rank,but the difference % between the 1st and mine.

 

[D94]

Thanks a lot for ur response, so I can see there is no matter about the rank,but the difference % between the 1st and mine.

It's the difference between each rank. I just used 1st and 25th because you can't get perspective if I had said 24th and 25th.

 

[shaneuko]

It's the difference between each rank. I just used 1st and 25th because you can't get perspective if I had said 24th and 25th.

Because I visited some website said the person who get 1st external, the mark will be the 1st's internal mark. What about the person who get 1st internal and the person who get 1st external are different, what will be the internal mark give to the person who get 1st external, is that depend on the rank? do u get what I try to said, sorry about my poor explain.

 

[D94]

Because I visited some website said the person who get 1st external, the mark will be the 1st's internal mark. What about the person who get 1st internal and the person who get 1st external are different, what will be the internal mark give to the person who get 1st external, is that depend on the rank? do u get what I try to said, sorry about my poor explain.

The person who is ranked 1 will receive the highest exam mark for their moderated assessment mark, and they keep their own exam mark (everyone keeps their own exam mark). Don't think of the HSC exams being ranked. The order of your exam performance doesn't matter. The person who achieves the highest exam mark in your school will get whatever mark they get for their moderated assessment mark (this is calculated through their raw school marks) + their own exam mark.

 

[Riproot]

I got 14/15 in the MC...anyway...thanks mate

Marking Guidelines

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I marked it... I gave you a little lower than you gave yourself, but don't be disheartened because that is still either band 6 or almost band 6 (88-91) depending on your option.

 

[someth1ng]

http://imgur.com/PkokJ,DcEDT,U0NfG,lXdX6,C9Zr5,QQDkk

I marked it... I gave you a little lower than you gave yourself, but don't be disheartened because that is still either band 6 or almost band 6 (88-91) depending on your option.

Yeah, I was thinking of giving myself 2/5 for that response but it felt stupid that pretty much all the criteria were fine except one or two of them for 4-5/5. Apart from that, the responses should be marked closer to HSC - I don't remember being like "errr..." to any other criteria.

By the way, if you thought that was an easy test, look at the Forensic Chemistry 7 marker...most retarded question ever.

 

[someth1ng]

I guess some extra stuff would be
Source: lightning strikes, combustion of biomass and bacterial decomposition.
Evidence: increased rate of weathering of buildings and statues - more in the last 50 years than 500 natural years of weathering, increased frequency of acid rain.
Problems: some nitrogen oxides can act as greenhouse gases, contributes to acid rain.

 

[Riproot]

Yeah, I was thinking of giving myself 2/5 for that response but it felt stupid that pretty much all the criteria were fine except one or two of them for 4-5/5. Apart from that, the responses should be marked closer to HSC - I don't remember being like "errr..." to any other criteria.

By the way, if you thought that was an easy test, look at the Forensic Chemistry 7 marker...most retarded question ever.

But to get in that band of answer you pretty much have to do all the stuff it says. This isn't english.
Did you look at the rest of them?

I guess some extra stuff would be
Source: lightning strikes, combustion of biomass and bacterial decomposition.
Evidence: increased rate of weathering of buildings and statues - more in the last 50 years than 500 natural years of weathering, increased frequency of acid rain.
Problems: some nitrogen oxides can act as greenhouse gases, contributes to acid rain.

Yeah, that's good, remember that for future and you're definitely on your way to a mid band 6

 

[Riproot]

Yeah, I was thinking of giving myself 2/5 for that response but it felt stupid that pretty much all the criteria were fine except one or two of them for 4-5/5. Apart from that, the responses should be marked closer to HSC - I don't remember being like "errr..." to any other criteria.

By the way, if you thought that was an easy test, look at the Forensic Chemistry 7 marker...most retarded question ever.

But to get in that band of answer you pretty much have to do all the stuff it says. This isn't english.
Did you look at the rest of them?

I haven't looked at the forensic chemistry option for that particular paper yet, but if it is harder then the option will be scaled in your favour.

I guess some extra stuff would be
Source: lightning strikes, combustion of biomass and bacterial decomposition.
Evidence: increased rate of weathering of buildings and statues - more in the last 50 years than 500 natural years of weathering, increased frequency of acid rain.
Problems: some nitrogen oxides can act as greenhouse gases, contributes to acid rain.

Yeah, that's good, remember that for future and you're definitely on your way to a mid band 6

 

[someth1ng]

But to get in that band of answer you pretty much have to do all the stuff it says. This isn't english.
Did you look at the rest of them?

Okay, I was on my iPod and I couldn't see the other pages...lol

Q19. Coherence etc is more subjective and it's hard to me to see if my own work is not coherent but if you say it isn't coherent then it probably isn't.
Q20a. Correct sig. figs. aren't a criteria in HSC unless it's specificied (sometimes it's specifically specified but otherwise, it shouldn't matter) HOWEVER, it should always be in the right sig. figs. when possible.
Q20b. If the can is more conductive, heat won't be excessively lost from the spirit burner - it's still a part of the apparatus.
Q21a. Sample Answer: "Acid 1 is a strong acid, equivalence point is at pH = 7 and initial pH is at 1. Acid 2 is a weak acid as pH at equivalence point is >7 and initial pH is >1. Acid 2 has a higher concentration than Acid 1 as it takes more KOH to neutralise it."
I covered all of that, I believe that one SHOULD still be a 3/3.
Q21b. Well, that's awkward LOL - my bad, didn't realise that silly
Q22c. Yeah, that was...curious...I was expecting a carry on error but I dunno what happened (what a waste of a mark)...
Q23. Your marking is in line with HSC there, I think.
Q25a. FUCK.
Q25b. Yeah, that's fair enough. 1 sounds about right - steam 3 would be a carry on error, I guess.
Q26c. You were lenient in this question. "Correctly labels metals and ions with cathode and anode reversed" is two marks, I didn't label the anode and cathode at all - "Correctly labels metals and ions without stating cathode and anode" is 1 mark and that's all that I satisfied. I didn't realise that it said to identify the anode and cathode...

Anyway, I think your marking is generally harsher than HSC to some extent.

Personally, I should be getting a couple more marks than what you gave because well, you're probably tighter than HSC (slightly) but either way, ~90 exam mark performance.

 

[Riproot]

Okay, I was on my iPod and I couldn't see the other pages...lol

Q19. Coherence etc is more subjective and it's hard to me to see if my own work is not coherent but if you say it isn't coherent then it probably isn't.
Q20a. Correct sig. figs. aren't a criteria in HSC unless it's specificied (sometimes it's specifically specified but otherwise, it shouldn't matter) HOWEVER, it should always be in the right sig. figs. when possible.
Q20b. If the can is more conductive, heat won't be excessively lost from the spirit burner - it's still a part of the apparatus.
Q21a. Sample Answer: "Acid 1 is a strong acid, equivalence point is at pH = 7 and initial pH is at 1. Acid 2 is a weak acid as pH at equivalence point is >7 and initial pH is >1. Acid 2 has a higher concentration than Acid 1 as it takes more KOH to neutralise it."
I covered all of that, I believe that one SHOULD still be a 3/3.
Q21b. Well, that's awkward LOL - my bad, didn't realise that silly
Q22c. Yeah, that was...curious...I was expecting a carry on error but I dunno what happened (what a waste of a mark)...
Q23. Your marking is in line with HSC there, I think.
Q25a. FUCK.
Q25b. Yeah, that's fair enough. 1 sounds about right - steam 3 would be a carry on error, I guess.
Q26c. You were lenient in this question. "Correctly labels metals and ions with cathode and anode reversed" is two marks, I didn't label the anode and cathode at all - "Correctly labels metals and ions without stating cathode and anode" is 1 mark and that's all that I satisfied. I didn't realise that it said to identify the anode and cathode...

Anyway, I think your marking is generally harsher than HSC to some extent.

Personally, I should be getting a couple more marks than what you gave because well, you're probably tighter than HSC (slightly) but either way, ~90 exam mark performance.

20a - your answer had been rounded wrong anyway.
21a - The way you wrote it was a lot more finicky and didn't quite get to the point, and remember markers are tired and annoyed when they get your paper.
22c - I think you typed it into your calc wrong in the first one and you included all the working in the second one instead of taking the answer from the previous one
24 - I reckon was the only one where I was actually *harsh*
25b - whether it was a carry on you still only fulfilled the one mark criteria (they wouldn't count that as carry on, the would count it as you interpreting the graph wrong)
26c - I felt like you had put them in the correct order but you didn't label what they were so I decided to give 2 marks. So sometimes I'm not as harsh as people think. haha

It's not. Trust me.
When I sat HSC I had a similar question to the one comparing ethanol and H₂O and I thought 'easy 4 out of 4'. I got one mark.

I don't think you should underestimate HSC markers.

 

[someth1ng]

Yeah, it's hard to say but I still think there were a couple that fully satisfied the criteria... Did you look at the marking criteria for the ethanol question afterwards and compare and did it look reasonable to give you 1?

Either way, I overperformed relative to my rank (14/56)...which is actually quite sad (and I think you were a tad too harsh ).

 

[Riproot]

Yeah, it's hard to say but I still think there were a couple that fully satisfied the criteria... Did you look at the marking criteria for the ethanol question afterwards and compare and did it look reasonable to give you 1?

Either way, I overperformed relative to my rank (14/56)...which is actually quite sad.

I dunno... I don't think you should argue, I think you should just work on making your answers better because there's no arguing with HSC markers.
Nah, I think it was unreasonable to give me 1/4 but what could I do? Nothing.

Yeah, lol.

 

[someth1ng]

I just thought some parts were unreasonable as well, that's how the HSC is - unfair shit but yeah, you can't do much.

Fuck, I'm pretty sure I'll get ~91 exam mark, 84 assessment mark. FUN FUN FUN

 

[Riproot]

I just thought some parts were unreasonable as well, that's how the HSC is - unfair shit but yeah, you can't do much.

Fuck, I'm pretty sure I'll get ~91 exam mark, 84 assessment mark. FUN FUN FUN

Yep.

That's better than me. lol
I got 91 + 83 = 87.

 

[Sindivyn]

There are some extreme cases where rank wont have a huge bearing. A HSC student in 2010 from my school was in the bottom of our SOR 1 cohort (80ish people, school rank of 90 that year) and scored 96 externally - her final HSC mark was 95.

 

[LoveHateSchool]

Sorry to say, but if you fucked up the trial you'll probs fuck up the HSC too.

Lol, they were some extenuating circumstances like I was really sick in trials, more time pressure to study for all subs and getting MW in cause I was overseas.

But I'm not expecting a high mark for Chem, I can get a band 5 and still get my desired 95.

 

[bleakarcher]

Damn, you have to be really specific in HSC chem from the looks of it..