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Hey mates.
Can you help me solve this?
Integrate 3^2x-1. I don't know how i can do this. Please show working out :D?
 

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∫3^(2x - 1) dx

Let m = 2x - 1
i.e. dm = 2dx

Now,
= (1/2)∫[3^m].dm
= [ (3^m) / (2 ln 3) ] + C

Remember ∫3^m = (3^m) / ln 3

Now, just sub everything back in

= [ 3^(2x - 1) / ln 9 ] + C .... answer
 

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Assuming it's 32x-1,

Let y = 32x-1, then ln(y) = ln(32x-1) = (2x-1)ln(3) .... (by log laws)

So, y = e(2x-1)ln(3) = e2ln(3)x-ln(3)

Now, ∫e2ln(3)x-ln(3) dx = 1/[2ln(3)] e2ln(3)x-ln(3) + C = 32x-1/ln(9) + C

NB: you will need to know how to integrate an exponential function, i.e. ∫ef(x) dx = 1/f'(x) * ef(x) + C
 

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I still dn't get it, can you explain it in an easier way? ):
 

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∫3^(2x - 1) dx

Let m = 2x - 1
i.e. dm = 2dx

Now,
= (1/2)∫[3^m].dm
= [ (3^m) / (2 ln 3) ] + C

Remember ∫3^m = (3^m) / ln 3

Now, just sub everything back in

= [ 3^(2x - 1) / ln 9 ] + C .... answer
Pretty sure in 2u, they don't do integration by substitution.

I still dn't get it, can you explain it in an easier way? ):
What part don't you get?
 

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I still dn't get it, can you explain it in an easier way? ):
What don't you get? Do you know your log laws? Do you know how to integrate a simpler function: e4x wrt x? Which line of my working out don't you get? Be more specific.
 

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Our teacher says you are allowed to use Integration by Substitution. He even taught it to the 2U people and says you are allowed to use it in exams/HSC.
 

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But it's hard for someone who doesn't even know the basics ....
 

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What don't you get? Do you know your log laws? Do you know how to integrate a simpler function: e4x wrt x? Which line of my working out don't you get? Be more specific.
Hi Hi,
Yes, I know my log laws. The second line. How did you get e? and further down, how did you change the 2ln(3)-ln(3) back to 2x-1?.... :x
 

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I'd assume you know:
the definition of log
log a^b = b * log a
and the integral of e^(cx+d)
 

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Hi Hi,
Yes, I know my log laws. The second line. How did you get e?
You will need to understand the relationship between the base and exponent in logarithmic and exponential functions:



(just don't confused the y's and x's in what I wrote and in the image, they are just variables)

and further down, how did you change the 2ln(3)-ln(3) back to 2x-1?.... :x
From this line:

Let y = 32x-1, then ln(y) = ln(32x-1) = (2x-1)ln(3) .... (by log laws)

So, y = e(2x-1)ln(3) = e2ln(3)x-ln(3)
Just follow the equal signs. (obviously you'll need to understand your first question before you can answer your second question)
 

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Aww thanks for the pic! and thanks for the explanation. 10,000 HI-5's to you's all !!!
 

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You are allowed to use integration by substitution, but for 2u students it's not in their course - and technically something they're not supposed to be learning.
 

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