Is 4 unit maths getting easier ? (2 Viewers)

[Trebla]

Don't we already have that?

I believe in NSW it is called Chemistry, Physics and Biology.

Senior Science bro

 

[braintic]

stuff like euler's identity

Euler's result hasn't been in since AT LEAST 1980.

 

[omegadot]

Don't we already have that?

I believe in NSW it is called Chemistry, Physics and Biology.

Sad but true!

 

[Drongoski]

The movement to mass upper secondary education (and now higher education).

An inevitable consequence of making higher education available to the masses. I remember a university education was available to (I'm only guessing the figure) perhaps 1 in 40 fifty years ago here; there were about only 10 universities in Australia. The status of "university" was jealously guarded. The academically less rigorous courses were done at colleges and, the better ones, Institutes of Technology - such as the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology and the New South Wales Institute of Technology (the predecessor of the current University of Technology Sydney). Tertiary education was elitist. Getting a degree was something.

 

[Paradoxica]

An inevitable consequence of making higher education available to the masses. I remember a university education was available to (I'm only guessing the figure) perhaps 1 in 40 fifty years ago here; there were about only 10 universities in Australia. The status of "university" was jealously guarded. The academically less rigorous courses were done at colleges and, the better ones, Institutes of Technology - such as the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology and the New South Wales Institute of Technology (the predecessor of the current University of Technology Sydney). Tertiary education was elitist. Getting a degree was something.

That itself is an inevitable consequence of social progression towards (naively idealistic) equality. Unfortunately, the shift in society has made the system favour the less capable/studious, and hence we have the people who would have done amazing things fifty years ago become lazy, underchallenged and under stimulated.

 

[Trebla]

Tbf some of the topic proposals for the new syllabus cover topics currently taught in first year maths at uni.

 

[Carrotsticks]

Tbf some of the topic proposals for the new syllabus cover topics currently taught in first year maths at uni.

Some would say that such topics are taught in first year uni BECAUSE it isn't covered in high school, not necessarily because it is of first year uni difficulty.

 

[omegadot]

Some would say that such topics are taught in first year uni BECAUSE it isn't covered in high school, not necessarily because it is of first year uni difficulty.

Perhaps, but why the rush to try and cover material at the secondary level which many will simply see again at university? And from some of the new topics being proposed one will only be able to treat them at a very superficial level anyway (difference and differential equations for example). Conics, on the other hand, while despised by many, was able to go into some depth in its treatment of the content without being superficial. Why do we live in an age where everything must be made relevant? Do we learn to read and write so we can simply fill out our tax returns each year? Sure it is useful skill to have, but there is so much more to reading and writing then this. The same goes for mathematics.

 

[Trebla]

Some would say that such topics are taught in first year uni BECAUSE it isn't covered in high school, not necessarily because it is of first year uni difficulty.

So it can be somewhat of a good thing that they're thinking of bringing some topics out of first year uni back into high school.

 

[Trebla]

Perhaps, but why the rush to try and cover material at the secondary level which many will simply see again at university? And from some of the new topics being proposed one will only be able to treat them at a very superficial level anyway (difference and differential equations for example). Conics, on the other hand, while despised by many, was able to go into some depth in its treatment of the content without being superficial. Why do we live in an age where everything must be made relevant? Do we learn to read and write so we can simply fill out our tax returns each year? Sure it is useful skill to have, but there is so much more to reading and writing then this. The same goes for mathematics.

One would hope that the uni courses would adjust accordingly with the change in syllabus by way of assumed knowledge.

 

[omegadot]

One would hope that the uni courses would adjust accordingly with the change in syllabus by way of assumed knowledge.

The dropping of first-order differential equations for conics perhaps

 

[Paradoxica]

I want Functional Equations and Inequalities. Also regular olympad inequalities as well. Now, regarding the pigeonhole principle....

 

[Zen2613]

Euler's result hasn't been in since AT LEAST 1980.

They should still bring it back. Its one of those 'omg maths is beautiful' moments when students learn it.