Can HSC markers......?? (1 Viewer)

[jimmysmith560]

Original Poster:

Hypothetically speaking, can a trained hsc marking teacher give you let say a band 6 worthy response a shitty mark? When teachers are marking the exams(of course subjects with a significant amount of writing involved), can they give marks to their pleasing? Lets just say if you repond to a question which is not in favour of a teacher's view, can they mark you down? This is all aside from the marking criteria btw.

I know and I've heard that often the reality is that if you can agree with your marker's perspective in things, you tend to get higher marks. They tend to appreciate your response more and give more marks???? I mean i might be trippin or something but is this the case? Then again, some teachers may be more lenient than others when it comes to marking..

Tbh, I don't know too much about how the HSC is marked particularly subjects such as English, eco, legal and so forth where there are lots of essays. All i know is that they are qualified high school teachers who get paid for each paper they mark. Can a paper be marked twice or it is just one and only time. And that would be your final exam result???
Any comments would be appreciated

Original Poster:

Hypothetically speaking, can a trained hsc marking teacher give you let say a band 6 worthy response a shitty mark? When teachers are marking the exams(of course subjects with a significant amount of writing involved), can they give marks to their pleasing? Lets just say if you repond to a question which is not in favour of a teacher's view, can they mark you down? This is all aside from the marking criteria btw.

No, they have to abide by the marking criteria depending on the subject and this applies to all sections of the exam. They cannot penalise a student because they are "not supportive of the student's view/perspective". In regard to the HSC exam, extended-response questions, which, as defined by NESA, include essays, have two or more markers, meaning such an incident will definitely be noticed and addressed by the other markers who are marking the same question for that particular student.

Original Poster:

I know and I've heard that often the reality is that if you can agree with your marker's perspective in things, you tend to get higher marks. They tend to appreciate your response more and give more marks???? I mean i might be trippin or something but is this the case? Then again, some teachers may be more lenient than others when it comes to marking..

There might potentially be a slight advantage with respect to your internal assessment tasks/exams if you choose to consistently demonstrate agreement with your teacher's perspective through your response, although there is no guarantee that this occurs. In the HSC exam, I believe it would be safe to say that this is irrelevant when it comes to the HSC exams as you won't know who marks your papers.

Your response should be based on your own understanding/perspective of themes/issues raised in the respective questions, based on the concepts you have learned throughout the year. I don't think that leniency is necessarily linked to agreement with your teacher's perspective(s) as your teacher may mark your response in a lenient manner even if your perspective is different to theirs.

Original Poster:

Tbh, I don't know too much about how the HSC is marked particularly subjects such as English, eco, legal and so forth where there are lots of essays. All i know is that they are qualified high school teachers who get paid for each paper they mark. Can a paper be marked twice or it is just one and only time. And that would be your final exam result???

Short answer questions are marked by one marker and (as I mentioned above) responses that classify as extended responses are marked by two or more markers. I suggest having a look at the following link as it thoroughly explains NESA's marking process:

https://educationstandards.nsw.edu.au/wps/portal/nesa/11-12/hsc/about-HSC/exam-marking-operation

I hope this helps!

 

[Life'sHard]

You can always ask for a remark. So don't worry.

 

[quickoats]

You can always ask for a remark. So don't worry.

No you can’t. It is not remarked, just ‘checked’. They literally check if the mark on your paper matches the raw mark - sometimes this doesn’t match due to admin errors eg missing a booklet.

 

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Also, a script is marked at least once. It’ll pop up to more than one marker, and both of them will grade it. If they give the same grade, that is the mark you’ll be awarded. If there’s a discrepancy, then it’ll go for further investigation.

Marking is very consistent due to the size of the operation + they do conduct pilot marking sessions to gauge different levels of abilities and their corresponding marks.

 

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Re: your point about “agreeing with the students perspective”. I think this is more that “devils advocate” essays might not do as well, not because the teacher disagrees, but because the question is posed in a way that you should be agreeing (unless you have a VERY convincing argument otherwise). I don’t think ppl generally pull this off very well so that’s why you may see it landing lower marks.

 

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Original Poster:

yeah this was essentially what i was trying to imply. People who disagree with a question or not conforming to some accepted views.

HSC markers have to be impartial (and are probably very good at that, since they see hundreds of scripts), but generally I think devil's advocate essays tend to perform not so well because they are poorly done. Tbh I feel people mostly play that card to sound "smart" or be "noticeable" and "stand out" to the marker, kinda going against what they've learned so of course it's not going to be accomplished as well => lower marks. If done well, it would be impressive.

Not saying it's the same thing, but kinda like using 4u (or even uni) maths in a 2u exam to flex. Yes it's valid, and when done well and properly, will receive full marks without any deductions. However, when done poorly, it can backfire.