2023 HSC chat (6 Viewers)

[SadCeliac]

As someone who does not do business, I can confirm that I have never heard of Liam's Lollies.
Even if it were a thing, I would never go to Liam's Lollies, because it simply sounds like a name that a middle aged guy would call his white van.

 

[scaryshark09]

is anyone who does business here? cause im freaking out about this

 

[SadCeliac]

Guys what are the main scholarships/programs offered by UTS mainly related to Engineering/IT??
I know of the BIT program, Co-op scholarship, IDeA cadetship... anything else?? @dav53521 you go to UTS, would you be able to clarify?

also relating to that, there seems to be the regular BIT, and the BIT co-op??? does anyone know much about these?

 

[dav53521]

Guys what are the main scholarships/programs offered by UTS mainly related to Engineering/IT??
I know of the BIT program, Co-op scholarship, IDeA cadetship... anything else?? @dav53521 you go to UTS, would you be able to clarify?

There's the Women in Engineering and IT scholarship which I don't think applies to you and there's also the Edge program for early entry that can give some bonus points.

 

[SadCeliac]

There's the Women in Engineering and IT scholarship which I don't think applies to you and there's also the Edge program for early entry that can give some bonus points.

Alright, so my options for UTS are then BIT, Co-op, IDeA, Edge (for early entry)
And do you know much about how they differ and what they involve? I'm trying to search through the UTS website but they all seem similar to me :/

 

[dav53521]

also relating to that, there seems to be the regular BIT, and the BIT co-op??? does anyone know much about these?

regular BIT which use to be called Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is just a normal degree. While the BIT Co-op is a selective course which offers around 49k over the three years in scholarship money and offers two industry placements with sponsoring companies

 

[SadCeliac]

So if I'm getting this right, Co-Op is just like an addon to regular (selected) courses? It's not its own thing?

 

[dav53521]

So if I'm getting this right, Co-Op is just like an addon to regular (selected) courses? It's not its own thing?

It is it's own thing as I think they accelerate or smth like that so they, place you in your own special tutorials (I think) for the core subjects, make you do only 1 major (regular BIT degree requires 2 majors) and count your internships towards your degree. I'm not too sure as I'm not in it so I don't know all the details about it as UTS has made it somewhat of a nightmare to find the Co-op site.

 

[SadCeliac]

It is it's own thing as I think they accelerate or smth like that so they, place you in your own special tutorials (I think) for the core subjects, make you do only 1 major (regular BIT degree requires 2 majors) and count your internships towards your degree. I'm not too sure as I'm not in it so I don't know all the details about it as UTS has made it somewhat of a nightmare to find the Co-op site.

So, Co-Op is less of a scholarship and more an accelerated program???

 

[dav53521]

So, Co-Op is less of a scholarship and more an accelerated program???

It is a scholarship as you don't have to pay for your degree and you get paid scholarship money but it is accelerated I think and offers work experince with sponsoring companies so it's basically a scholarship that accelerates you (not too sure about this though) and gives you two unpaid internships.

 

[dav53521]

Guys what are the main scholarships/programs offered by UTS mainly related to Engineering/IT??
I know of the BIT program, Co-op scholarship, IDeA cadetship... anything else?? @dav53521 you go to UTS, would you be able to clarify?

also relating to that, there seems to be the regular BIT, and the BIT co-op??? does anyone know much about these?

Alright, so my options for UTS are then BIT, Co-op, IDeA, Edge (for early entry)
And do you know much about how they differ and what they involve? I'm trying to search through the UTS website but they all seem similar to me :/

Edge is just extra points to your selection rank to improve your chances of getting in.

BIT Co-op is a special course which selects around 40 people (give or take as it depends on number of sponsored positions) and provides a scholarship, two internships (not paid I think) and some other stuff (I think).

IDeA is a cadetship program so no scholarshp and the perks that come with a scholarship but it does other at least two years with a sponsor in-which you are actually employed at the company. What the companies offer can be different as some companies pay more, some companies give you a scholarship etc.

 

[SadCeliac]

alright, tysm

 

[scaryshark09]

business case study essay is a nightmare.
our school doesn't give us case studies.
do i just make up a random business during the exam to fit the question.
why is this so hard?

anyone?

 

[SadCeliac]

anyone?

no

 

[carrotsss]

anyone?

@jimmysmith560

 

[jimmysmith560]

While real-life case studies are preferred, if you find that you lack a relevant real-life case study to answer a particular question, you can discuss a hypothetical case study and still achieve a good mark as long as you are able to effectively incorporate hypothetical information into your response (which is essentially the same expectation as when using real-life case study material).

With that being said, I would recommend researching and gathering as much information about real-life business as possible before opting to generate hypothetical business information yourself. At the same time, you can also attempt a number of Section IV questions from past trial and HSC exam papers to prepare yourself in terms of ensuring that you are able to generate and discuss rational hypothetical information, should this be needed in the actual exam. This is because having to think of hypothetical information on the spot can take time and can be detrimental to the overall quality of your response if incorporated poorly.

 

[synthesisFR]

Hey guys some of my friends have been having their languages exams and have a few questions:
How is it fair bc apparently in the speaking exam if u do well then the examiner asks harder questions so it like ramps up? How would that work. Also isn’t this very subjective bc apparently some of them don’t ask hard questions at all.

 

[carrotsss]

Hey guys some of my friends have been having their languages exams and have a few questions:
How is it fair bc apparently in the speaking exam if u do well then the examiner asks harder questions so it like ramps up? How would that work. Also isn’t this very subjective bc apparently some of them don’t ask hard questions at all.

yeah one of my friends was telling me about her exam and it sounded so insane and unfair, and the questions were so weird

 

[Masaken]

Hey guys some of my friends have been having their languages exams and have a few questions:
How is it fair bc apparently in the speaking exam if u do well then the examiner asks harder questions so it like ramps up? How would that work. Also isn’t this very subjective bc apparently some of them don’t ask hard questions at all.

as someone who did the speaking exam last year it's not unfortunately and the exam is much more subjective than nesa makes you want to believe

I wasn't the best at speaking and I went there with very average speaking skills and I do remember screwing up with my (pre-memorised) responses then and there, and then when I noticed that the teacher slowed down a bit and went stayed with simple qs. I still remember when I was asked a q and I had been struggling to start with an answer, so as soon as the teacher noticed that they let me finish off with one short sentence (I was supposed to speak for two more) and quickly moved onto the next.

if u do show off really good speaking skills at the start, I think the teachers automatically envision a top mark for u and then aim higher to make sure u comfortably get it (my teacher used to grade the recordings of the exam and said something last year like the teachers figure out what mark the kids get only a few minutes in), but regardless it still sucks and it's still unreasonable to just start asking weird qs just cos u get the impression at the start

 

[jimmysmith560]

Hey guys some of my friends have been having their languages exams and have a few questions:
How is it fair bc apparently in the speaking exam if u do well then the examiner asks harder questions so it like ramps up? How would that work. Also isn’t this very subjective bc apparently some of them don’t ask hard questions at all.

I agree with most of Masaken's comments. Speaking exams for Beginners and Continuers language courses are intended to assess students according to their ability to discuss a range of topics in the form of a conversation with their examiner for 5 minutes and 10 minutes respectively. The exams usually begin with simple questions that allow for the conversation to be initiated and developed, after which the examiner can change the focus of the conversation to allow the student to speak about different topics.

If a student demonstrates a high level of fluency in the target language (where the standards that are considered high are lower in Beginners courses than those in Continuers courses), it is normal for the examiner to ask both follow-up questions and new questions that change the focus of the conversation in order to provide the student with the opportunity to maintain this standard for the remainder of the exam. On the other hand, if a student is unable to provide sophisticated responses, then the examiner will not be able to develop and change the focus of the conversation as intended (doing so would be pointless anyway if the student cannot further develop their answers) and will instead opt for simpler questions.

In terms of personal experience, while I obviously did not have any issues during my speaking exam since I am a native speaker, I can definitely understand if other students may have struggled a bit to answer questions of the same difficulty. This is therefore a reminder of the importance of ensuring that language students (this applies to all levels, not just Beginners and Continuers) maximise their preparations for their speaking exams.

This notion of subjectivity does not apply to Extension language courses, where all students have a choice of answering one of two questions in monologue form.