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It's super late now and I still don't know what I want to do at uni, and also what uni I want to go to

I was thinking of doing actuarial studies at Macquarie or unsw since I like maths, however i'm not sure if i'll like it that much since the maths is more statistics and probability which is the math i liked the least at school

Another option I am considering is just a math course at unsw or usyd, however they don't seem to have a direct path after uni, like actuarial studies has

Also I am recently looking at engineering such as civil, mechanical or aerospace, but still unsure. I did engineering studies for the HSC and i really enjoyed the mechanics/math aspect of it, but disliked the materials parts.

For some context, I really like math, mainly like calculus and mechanics side of maths, however i still enjoy statistics and probability also

Does anyone have any suggestions about these 3 course types? (actuarial studies, math, engineering) Also any suggestions on what uni?
Any thoughts/help is appreciated
 

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for actuarial I’ve heard macq is just as respected as unsw
yeh ive heard the same, but idek if i want to do actuarial studies

macq is closer but i prefer the double degrees at unsw so im conflicted
 

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My understanding is that MQ's Bachelor of Actuarial Studies is a more established program, although this does not mean that UNSW's Bachelor of Actuarial Studies is not a good program. Based on this, if you live closer to MQ and decide to study a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies, then you should probably consider attending MQ.

On the other hand, UNSW is well-regarded for its engineering programs. This means that, if you decide to study engineering, UNSW would definitely be a good option.

In terms of the double degree option, UNSW allows you to combine a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies with a Bachelor of Science (Advanced Mathematics) (Honours). From your post, it seems that this double degree would match your study interests, although it does mean that you would not be studying engineering, should you choose this double degree. If you decide that you are more interested in studying engineering, UNSW offers a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours)/Bachelor of Science, which preserves the option to study mathematics, but would mean that you would not be studying actuarial studies.

Another element that could assist you in making a decision is degree length. Some students may wish to complete their studies as quickly as possible (potentially limiting their study options), whereas other students may not have an issue with taking longer to finish their degree(s). Essentially, double degrees take more time to complete. In the case of the two programs offered by UNSW, each of them takes 5 years to complete. On the other hand, a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours) takes 4 years to complete, and a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies takes 3 years to complete.

I hope this helps! :D
 

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My understanding is that MQ's Bachelor of Actuarial Studies is a more established program, although this does not mean that UNSW's Bachelor of Actuarial Studies is not a good program. Based on this, if you live closer to MQ and decide to study a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies, then you should probably consider attending MQ.

On the other hand, UNSW is well-regarded for its engineering programs. This means that, if you decide to study engineering, UNSW would definitely be a good option.

In terms of the double degree option, UNSW allows you to combine a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies with a Bachelor of Science (Advanced Mathematics) (Honours). From your post, it seems that this double degree would match your study interests, although it does mean that you would not be studying engineering, should you choose this double degree. If you decide that you are more interested in studying engineering, UNSW offers a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours)/Bachelor of Science, which preserves the option to study mathematics, but would mean that you would not be studying actuarial studies.

Another element that could assist you in making a decision is degree length. Some students may wish to complete their studies as quickly as possible (potentially limiting their study options), whereas other students may not have an issue with taking longer to finish their degree(s). Essentially, double degrees take more time to complete. In the case of the two programs offered by UNSW, each of them takes 5 years to complete. On the other hand, a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours) takes 4 years to complete, and a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies takes 3 years to complete.

I hope this helps! :D
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My understanding is that MQ's Bachelor of Actuarial Studies is a more established program, although this does not mean that UNSW's Bachelor of Actuarial Studies is not a good program. Based on this, if you live closer to MQ and decide to study a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies, then you should probably consider attending MQ.

On the other hand, UNSW is well-regarded for its engineering programs. This means that, if you decide to study engineering, UNSW would definitely be a good option.

In terms of the double degree option, UNSW allows you to combine a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies with a Bachelor of Science (Advanced Mathematics) (Honours). From your post, it seems that this double degree would match your study interests, although it does mean that you would not be studying engineering, should you choose this double degree. If you decide that you are more interested in studying engineering, UNSW offers a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours)/Bachelor of Science, which preserves the option to study mathematics, but would mean that you would not be studying actuarial studies.

Another element that could assist you in making a decision is degree length. Some students may wish to complete their studies as quickly as possible (potentially limiting their study options), whereas other students may not have an issue with taking longer to finish their degree(s). Essentially, double degrees take more time to complete. In the case of the two programs offered by UNSW, each of them takes 5 years to complete. On the other hand, a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours) takes 4 years to complete, and a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies takes 3 years to complete.

I hope this helps! :D
thanks so much!
with regard to engineering at unsw, would you recommend doing a general engineering course, or a specific one like civil engineering or aerospace engineering or mechanical engineering? If i start with a generic one, is there the option of specialising later, or how does this work?
 

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is there somewhere we can find out what sort of content you learn in each course?
 

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Not sure about the specifics but I’m pretty sure unsw has an option for a flexible first year and then you can choose what you want to specialise in during your second year.
 

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It's super late now and I still don't know what I want to do at uni, and also what uni I want to go to

I was thinking of doing actuarial studies at Macquarie or unsw since I like maths, however i'm not sure if i'll like it that much since the maths is more statistics and probability which is the math i liked the least at school

Another option I am considering is just a math course at unsw or usyd, however they don't seem to have a direct path after uni, like actuarial studies has

Also I am recently looking at engineering such as civil, mechanical or aerospace, but still unsure. I did engineering studies for the HSC and i really enjoyed the mechanics/math aspect of it, but disliked the materials parts.

For some context, I really like math, mainly like calculus and mechanics side of maths, however i still enjoy statistics and probability also

Does anyone have any suggestions about these 3 course types? (actuarial studies, math, engineering) Also any suggestions on what uni?
Any thoughts/help is appreciated
im studying maths next year, theres a lot of fields u can go into, including many finance positions, programming jobs, teaching (uni teaching pays well), data science, etc. its kind of a double edged sword in that it is super flexible, but id say its probably a good idea to learn the content in the field u end up being most interested in as well as just doing the regular courses (eg make some data science projects for ur portfolio). additionally the majority of maths graduates usually end up getting at LEAST a masters, though a phd is really common as it lets u do lecturing, and is overall just more competitive than just having a bachelor.

personally im going to uts for maths (bachelor of mathematical sciences, pure + applied math major), might seem like a bit of a weird pick but honestly the content they teach is quite similar to that of unsw and usyd, except maybe less pure math topics eg they dont really teach topology. i just prefer that their structure allows u to dip ur feet into many different fields, they have data science, finance, quantitative management classes built into the degree. i just prefer that their course seems to strike a balance between mathematical concepts and industry/employment specific things, but honestly both usyd and unsw also have great courses. i also just dont like trimesters at unsw and the fact that u have to take either another major aside math at usyd or do a bunch of electives/minor, but thats just personal preference.

if u like calculus/mechanics, id say engineering is probably fitting as theres a lot of that obviously. since u dislike materials id maybe recommend electrical engineering as afaik all u would have to learn is logic gate related stuff, so less of like physical materials stuff, but not too sure on that. the mathematics in electrical engineering is also pretty high level, so u certainly would be challenged there.

also, if u pick a math degree, u can take a master of acturial studies and become accredited through that path, which is certainly slower than just taking a bachelor in acturial but could be an option, at least that career is not completly lost if u decide to take up a math degree.

personally, id say:
- pick engineering/acturial for probably the most straightforward/least flexible career path, but honestly from reading what u wrote engineering sounds more fitting to ur interests, obviously i cant say for sure but acturial is mostly financial theory and excel from what ive heard, so keep that in mind
- pick math for more flexibility, there are some good career paths directly after uni, eg quants roles can be achieved directly from undergraduate afaik, but u might need further study afterwards

i was in ur situation at the start of the year, i was putting off maths for the same reason and quite indecisive between studying physics and specilising to become a medical physicist or studying computer science or engineering, but ultimately i decided on math, like u i also believed that math didnt have many career paths but thats just not true, and ultimately as it is probably the subject i enjoy the most (aside from compsci) and am definetly ready to put in the next 3-7 years of study in the field, i know at the end i can always get a job in finance or technology like data science or end up lecturing, all of which have decent-very good pay

sorry for wall of text hope this helps :)
 

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thanks so much!
with regard to engineering at unsw, would you recommend doing a general engineering course, or a specific one like civil engineering or aerospace engineering or mechanical engineering? If i start with a generic one, is there the option of specialising later, or how does this work?
is there somewhere we can find out what sort of content you learn in each course?
No worries! As randomuser246 mentioned, UNSW offers the option of a Flexible First Year, allowing you to explore different disciplines before choosing the one that you wish to specialise in.

In terms the content tought in each course, a university’s handbook would be a good starting point:
 

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ANU has a general engineering program, where everyone studies the same content for two years and then specialises in their third year of study.
 

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on uac preferences, i can only pick this, and theres no option i can see where i can select the specific double degree i want
How does this work?
 

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iirc all of the other courses require a lower ATAR so you just do that and then you get to pick which one afterwards
 

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how much should travel times play into it. one uni is 1 hour and 15 mins (2.5 hours round trip), the other is like 1 hour (just over 2 hours round trip), should this play into my decision considering the 25-30min difference per day (round trip)??
then theres also another uni (not as good) that is 40 mins each way
 

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