Countdown to ATAR release & ATAR reveal thread (1 Viewer)

[herbimycin]

Ca someone explain to me why my friend got an ATAR in the 60s when all her marks were over 71? (Four Band 4s and one Band 5). Is this because of rankings?

the atar is NOT a mark. Its a ranking among everyone else in our year group. UAC looks at the the marks across all. the subjects and compares them and uses algorithms to scale the marks. This essentially works out how "difficult" a subject is compared to others, as it can be much easier or harder to get a certain mark in some subjects. For example, getting an 80 on ext. 2 maths is far more difficult than getting 80 in standard maths. From this, your scaled marks are calculated (we don't get these individually), and then compared to rank each student in order of achievement. \

So the actual numbers you get as marks from nesa do not directly translate to an atar. Your atar is only a rank, which is calculated by essentially comparing your marks against the rest of nsw to work out how many people did better than you and how many did worse

 

[tvskAXatar]

What was the average 2024 ATAR?

 

[herbimycin]

What was the average 2024 ATAR?

median was 71.55. For those wondering why its not 50, that atar kind of includes all the people in our year group, including those who dropped out, pushing the median/mean atar of those who actually got one up above 50

 

[crazysalmon]

Ca someone explain to me why my friend got an ATAR in the 60s when all her marks were over 71? (Four Band 4s and one Band 5). Is this becuase of rankings?

it's probably because of the subjects she chose. example, if she chose physics and got a 71 it wouldn't be the same as her getting a 71 in standard english - NESA scales those marks respectively to align with the difficulty of that subject as if everyone in the state sat it.

Because of that, even though she may have gotten perceivably average marks e.g, a 71, she still might've been below the course average which could've been for an example a 78 -> which as a result, would affect her overall ATAR.

ATAR ≠ marks, your ATAR is your rank in regards to how you went in comparison to others also in the 2024 cohort.

 

[pablo34]

Yeah na, my actual atar was .75 below what UAC was saying. My friend’s went up by an entire atar.

You can edit your signature as you received your atar...guessing you were 0.75 from a 99??? 98.25 isn't bad just saying

 

[weeze]

Im aiming to get an offer from USYD for Commerce & Science in January round 1 (since they lower the indicative selection rank to 93), however, my selection rank is a 92.25 ( ) -- do you guys still think I have a chance? Has anyone heard of somebody or has experience getting into a course at USYD with a lower selection rank than written?

 

[SMARTYPANTS_SINGH]

You can edit your signature as you received your atar...guessing you were 0.75 from a 99??? 98.25 isn't bad just saying

Edit my signature Bro I was about to delete my acc after seeing my atar it was that bad (still 90+ tho)

 

[noktfox]

hey everyone, sorry if this was asked somewhere before. i got an offer for unsw, but scholarships are still “being assessed” and can be given all up to february. do i still follow along the enrolment and payment? how would that work if i get a scholarship later that could potentially cover all my course tuition but i already paid for first term?

 

[SMARTYPANTS_SINGH]

hey everyone, sorry if this was asked somewhere before. i got an offer for unsw, but scholarships are still “being assessed” and can be given all up to february. do i still follow along the enrolment and payment? how would that work if i get a scholarship later that could potentially cover all my course tuition but i already paid for first term?

Aren’t you taking HECS?

 

[noktfox]

Aren’t you taking HECS?

i would presume my payment method shouldn’t influence the order of enrolment or scholarship

 

[Armon]

i would presume my payment method shouldn’t influence the order of enrolment or scholarship

Scholarships are not just "paying course tuition", they're given to you as straight cash - the 6k I got is in the S&P500 now lmao. You also will not be paid your scholarship as soon as your application is accepted, often its split between several instalments over perhaps many years or terms. You're expected to enrol and the money will be given to you later. If you're relying on the scholarship to pay for Uni, good luck because 9/10 times you'll get rejected. Also, there is no reason to ever use scholarship money for Uni fees, you should always use HECS if you are eligible. The indexation rate over the last years is as follows:
and its looking like 2025 will be back down to the 2%ish mark since the CPI has calmed down.
For context, the S&P500 returns an average of 10.13% per annum, and even a 0 risk High Interest Savings Account at westpac is 5.2% per annum. You are literally losing money by paying off your HECS because you can earn more money interest free by saving your money than the added interest you'll pay for HECS loans.

 

[la_sportive]

anyone get a new atar???

 

[carrotsss]

Scholarships are not just "paying course tuition", they're given to you as straight cash - the 6k I got is in the S&P500 now lmao. You also will not be paid your scholarship as soon as your application is accepted, often its split between several instalments over perhaps many years or terms. You're expected to enrol and the money will be given to you later. If you're relying on the scholarship to pay for Uni, good luck because 9/10 times you'll get rejected. Also, there is no reason to ever use scholarship money for Uni fees, you should always use HECS if you are eligible. The indexation rate over the last years is as follows: View attachment 46175
and its looking like 2025 will be back down to the 2%ish mark since the CPI has calmed down.
For context, the S&P500 returns an average of 10.13% per annum, and even a 0 risk High Interest Savings Account at westpac is 5.2% per annum. You are literally losing money by paying off your HECS because you can earn more money interest free by saving your money than the added interest you'll pay for HECS loans.

I’m doing the exact same thing regarding hecs using a hisa (but without a scholarship because usyd hates my farm’s suburb ) and it’s just common sense, there’s no reason to pay off your hecs atm and if interest rates drop and indexation is set to rise you can just quickly pay it off before it gets indexed and ur chilling