What ATAR do you actually need to do Medicine? (1 Viewer)

[HazzRat]

DEI is going to kill people. How tf u gonna let some one with below average intelligence (60.8 atar) in ur medicine course? no wonder why usyd is full of leftards. "He's aboriginal which means we should have lower standards for them" This is also indirectly racist

mfer they asked for ur two cents, not ur two pence

 

[carrotsss]

lol - thanks for pointing out my misunderstanding. I really couldn't understand how the median could be so low

so looking at the website it seems to imply that you must do maths advanced, chemistry and biology at HSC to get into med at USyd?
- so if someone got 99.95 but had done physics instead of chemistry or biology would they really get rejected?

i have heard of people who got 99.95 and got rejected

anyway maths adv prereq is leaving, and chem/bio is only assumed knowledge (you can enter without) and only for the med science stream for ur undergrad which u dont have to do, like i have a friend doing maths/comp sci before in the bsc part of her bsc/md, its up to the person

 

[nsw..wollongong]

oh then its some underwater basket weaving degree then lol

no one even asked u to do it mate

 

[rh_06]

mfer they asked for ur two cents, not ur two pence

I dont think they realise that disadvantaged ppl exist/not everyone has equal opportunities hence the different education standards and requirements

 

[coolcat6778]

I dont think they realise that disadvantaged ppl exist/not everyone has equal opportunities hence the different education standards and requirements

60 atar is legit crazy, borderline intellectual disability

 

[nsw..wollongong]

60 atar is legit crazy, borderline intellectual disability

u say this till u go thru unforeseen circumstances that result in academic disadvantage.

 

[iloveeggs]

u say this till u go thru unforeseen circumstances that result in academic disadvantage.

bros logic is so cooked they served it at maccas the other day. not worth reasoning with him tbh bc idk if he could come up with anything but a ramble for a rebuttal

 

[coolcat6778]

bros logic is so cooked they served it at maccas the other day. not worth reasoning with him tbh bc idk if he could come up with anything but a ramble for a rebuttal

again, 60 atar is crazy. If someone had economical disadvantages the least they could get is an 80 atar if they are actually worth it.

 

[Socialism]

DEI is going to kill people.

ok i know i'm taking the bait here but like the whole idea of DEI is that FULLY QUALIFIED diverse people get jobs its not like they're idiots
if anything argue it's taking jobs away from white males but the people getting jobs with dei are just as qualified as everyone else

 

[Socialism]

i agree though a 60 atar is crazy

 

[coolcat6778]

ok i know i'm taking the bait here but like the whole idea of DEI is that FULLY QUALIFIED diverse people get jobs its not like they're idiots
if anything argue it's taking jobs away from white males but the people getting jobs with dei are just as qualified as everyone else

This is unacceptable whether you like it or not. This is also DEI. Joe Biden picked out a bunch of tards instead of normal people on purpose. (probably his string puller made him do that)

 

[iloveeggs]

i agree though a 60 atar is crazy

i mean i agree 60 atar is bad but you can still get that kind of atar without it being 100% your fault.

like say you got into an accident or seriously injured at the start of y12 and you survive and recover for hsc, imagine what that would do to your atar (your estimates are also gonna be really inaccurate to your performance if this stuff happens without you even doing a single exam). imagine suddenly losing your home or losing a parent or carer or losing all income. imagine going through abuse or something traumatic during y12 or hsc.

yeah these kinds of ppl get eas adjustment factors and still get into uni and stuff but their actual raw atar can get really bad. i feel like we should like think a little bit abt like serious reasons why ppl flop before saying dumb crap like this (not you @Socialism )

also some people get early entry AND/OR dont give a crap also so is it actually important in the end if they get where they want to be? idk why everyone is so bothered abt some other person getting a 60 atar, let them get whatever they want bc if none of the "dropkicks" get atars under 60 or 70, all the ppl with 70+ would be distributed back into the under 70s bc the atar is a rank not a mark. it would make getting a 90+ atar much harder than it already is.

also after a few years even ppl who drop out or get crap atars can make a good living for themselves. has anyone commenting searched up what electricians and constuction ppl make, bc they dont even do uni and still make an above average salary

 

[Socialism]

i mean i agree 60 atar is bad but you can still get that kind of atar without it being 100% your fault.

like say you got into an accident or seriously injured at the start of y12 and you survive and recover for hsc, imagine what that would do to your atar (your estimates are also gonna be really inaccurate to your performance if this stuff happens without you even doing a single exam). imagine suddenly losing your home or losing a parent or carer or losing all income. imagine going through abuse or something traumatic during y12 or hsc.

yeah these kinds of ppl get eas adjustment factors and still get into uni and stuff but their actual raw atar can get really bad. i feel like we should like think a little bit abt like serious reasons why ppl flop before saying dumb crap like this (not you @Socialism )

also some people get early entry AND/OR dont give a crap also so is it actually important in the end if they get where they want to be? idk why everyone is so bothered abt some other person getting a 60 atar, let them get whatever they want bc if none of the "dropkicks" get atars under 60 or 70, all the ppl with 70+ would be distributed back into the under 70s bc the atar is a rank not a mark. it would make getting a 90+ atar much harder than it already is.

also after a few years even ppl who drop out or get crap atars can make a good living for themselves. has anyone commenting searched up what electricians and constuction ppl make, bc they dont even do uni and still make an above average salary

yeah lol i meant its crazy they got into med or whatever lmao i'm not shaming anyone for getting an atar

 

[svad]

However ik WSU does have a lower Atar requirement (I think 91.5 for GWS applicants) but admission is weighted by 60% interview and 40% ucat + atar.

Yeah generally unis with lower ATAR acceptance rates need higher UCAT scores. WSU has a min of 95.5 (93.5 if you live in western syd, and 91~ if rural) but ATAR rly only weighs around 25% of your acceptance. Ur UACT and Interview make up about 75% of your acceptance, and I think WSU cares more about verbal reasoning the most.

 

[rh_06]

Yeah generally unis with lower ATAR acceptance rates need higher UCAT scores. WSU has a min of 95.5 (93.5 if you live in western syd, and 91~ if rural) but ATAR rly only weighs around 25% of your acceptance. Ur UACT and Interview make up about 75% of your acceptance, and I think WSU cares more about verbal reasoning the most.

Nah its the other way around: https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/future/study/how-to-apply/md-applicants/general-applicants
"Final offers are made on the basis of: 75% interview performance, 25% UCAT ANZ performance and meeting the relevant academic threshold."

 

[svad]

Nah its the other way around: https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/future/study/how-to-apply/md-applicants/general-applicants
"Final offers are made on the basis of: 75% interview performance, 25% UCAT ANZ performance and meeting the relevant academic threshold."

oh lmao

 

[iloveeggs]

Nah its the other way around: https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/future/study/how-to-apply/md-applicants/general-applicants
"Final offers are made on the basis of: 75% interview performance, 25% UCAT ANZ performance and meeting the relevant academic threshold."

yes but majority of people that dont have a high enough ucat dont get an interview for wsu so you tell me whats more important. in hindsight yeah maybe interviews count more but you have to get an interview first and then they can do the whole weighting thing

 

[iloveeggs]

yeah lol i meant its crazy they got into med or whatever lmao i'm not shaming anyone for getting an atar

oh hell nah they dont

 

[rh_06]

yes but majority of people that dont have a high enough ucat dont get an interview for wsu so you tell me whats more important. in hindsight yeah maybe interviews count more but you have to get an interview first and then they can do the whole weighting thing

I'm js quoting whats been published. But I'd assume that the UCAT req at WSU is lower than say, UNSW or smth- someone that has a poor ucat but good interview may get offered instead of a person with the opposite. So like u said, they may do weighting after allat.

 

[iloveeggs]

I'm js quoting whats been published. But I'd assume that the UCAT req at WSU is lower than say, UNSW or smth- someone that has a poor ucat but good interview may get offered instead of a person with the opposite. So like u said, they may do weighting after allat.

we arent comparing wsu to unsw in any of the posts bc unsw requires you to be well rounded (very high atar, very high ucat, good interview) as opposed to wsu (mid/decent atar, decently high ucat, good interview) - they were talking about unis that are okay with you having lower atars with higher ucat score.

btw the ppl that get wsu offers without rural or special considerations usually get 94th-98th percentile range, that too considering very high scores in vr section so yes the ucat requirement is high - source: medstudentsonline - idk why you said thats not high bc ppl get into unsw with the same type of percentiles

i understand you have a prob with the weighting stuff for offers that they said but the advice still applies to the pre-interview stage - when they give out interviews they care more about ucat (esp verbal) and basically "are you above minimum atar" on a yes/no basis. and if you dont meet that criteria there is no interview so most ppl are already eliminated by that stage. so if you get into wsu you are likely to have a high ucat

so idk whats wrong with what they said icl apart from the wrong percentages on the weighting they are still right in terms of their point