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thx for defending in a country that doesnt even believe in rape LMAO <3
Ah yes, if you don't use the literal word 'rape' it means you don't believe that non-consensual sex exists or is punishable by law, even though the sentence you quoted literally says that such acts can be punishable by life inprisonment

I literally couldn't make something up that makes you look dumber than you're making yourself look
 

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Yes dumb dumb, but what counts as rape? What evidence is needed?

There are literally countries where it doesn't count as rape if there aren't male witnesses, if a woman was walking around uncovered, a woman was walking around without a man etc.

That's the real difference
 

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you want to talk about islam? the actual religion and not the governments? we can

If a woman claims to have been raped or sexually abused under duress, she will be acquitted of adultery in light of Qur'anic verse 24:33, which states that a woman has not sinned when compelled to commit this crime.
Simply, the wife may refuse sexual intercourse demanded by her husband whenever she is unwilling to do so. If the husband forces his wife to have sexual intercourse without her consent, it should be treated as a rape for which the wife deserves a legal protection.

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Domestic violence is a form of injustice and oppression. Oppression is forbidden in many Islamic teachings.
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if im being deadass right now europe is probably one of the most continent that disrespects women
also aint no way iceland is there how about klaasohm night? its a night where men are socially allowed to abuse women and there are no laws to prevent this

how about in norway where they force women into mental asylum and take their children away for idk not buying them stuff (bc they cant afford it)?

how about in canada where it is illegal to speak up against violence of women in the street if not directly related?

how about in ireland where sexual assults of women are 65% as of 2022?

and there is much more just google, do not be naive

ppl are just oblivious and stupid, idc where the image source came from it is fake
... im confused u know i meant "why did they put europe over all those countries" right? im sorry that wasnt clear 😭

it was covering like 6+ countries it seems so silly
 

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... im confused u know i meant "why did they put europe over all those countries" right? im sorry that wasnt clear 😭

it was covering like 6+ countries it seems so silly
its ok regardless i hate the whole idea that 'europe's the safest for women!' not it aint please stop and be educated
 

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fact checking time?

in the usa a women is killed every 10 minutes, EVERY 10 MINUTES!!! what women rights is that?
tl;dr - this is globally, not in the USA.

in the USA in 2021, approximately 4.6 women per day were killed by an intimate partner (https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021). while this is still horrible, it is misleading to judge a country's 'level' of women's rights through a global standard.

in australia men get paid 28% more than women, what equal rights is that?
the gender pay gap in Australia is closer to 22% than 28%. further, the graph below shows how equal rights is a process, not a single action. the gender pay gap has been trending down for decades. a measure of 'success' in any field cannot just depict a specific time frame that suits the argument. the whole picture must be taken into account.

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"The WGEA total remuneration average gender pay gap is 21.8%. For every $1 on average a man makes, women earn 78c. Over the course of a year, that difference adds up to $28,425."



in france, women are forced to take their hijabs off and abaya (a long open dress) bc it set 'terror' for others, what women rights is that? freedom of choice?
I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to, but here are a few points:
1. It is true that in France, there is a law banning "the wearing of symbols or garb which show religious affiliation in public primary and secondary schools", however this includes Christian, Sikh, Jewish and Muslim symbols of religious affiliation. The aim of this move is to broadly secularise public French schooling, upholding their fundamental law on the separation of church and state. However, it has been notes that this law disproportionately affects Muslim adherents, as Christians rarely wear symbols of affiliation, Sikhs in France have succeeded in arguing for the wearing of undergarments, and Jewish families have private non-government Jewish schools they have the option to attend.

2. Further, France, in 2010/2011, banned the wearing of face-covering clothing, "including masks, helmets, balaclavas, niqābs and other veils covering the face, and full body costumes and zentais (skin-tight garments covering entire body) in public places, except under specified circumstances". The cause listed was that it prevents the clear identification of an individual, potentially posing security risks. This is not specifically targeted at Muslim women, and, hijabs are permitted, as they do not cover the face.

so, while there are laws preventing the religious expression of muslim women in france, it is not directed for gender-based reasons. further, many of these bans only apply in French public schools (the abaya is banned at schools for the same reason), where arguably the separation between religion and state should be enforced. It is not a law based on gender, rather on religion, thus it is mildly misleading for it to be used in a statement showing the lack of women's rights in a country.





-- I tried to hold a neutral stance when checking these claims, but of course there is bias present everywhere. please take these with a grain of salt and check out the data for yourself.
 

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fact checking time?


tl;dr - this is globally, not in the USA.

in the USA in 2021, approximately 4.6 women per day were killed by an intimate partner (https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021). while this is still horrible, it is misleading to judge a country's 'level' of women's rights through a global standard.



the gender pay gap in Australia is closer to 22% than 28%. further, the graph below shows how equal rights is a process, not a single action. the gender pay gap has been trending down for decades. a measure of 'success' in any field cannot just depict a specific time frame that suits the argument. the whole picture must be taken into account.

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"The WGEA total remuneration average gender pay gap is 21.8%. For every $1 on average a man makes, women earn 78c. Over the course of a year, that difference adds up to $28,425."





I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to, but here are a few points:
1. It is true that in France, there is a law banning "the wearing of symbols or garb which show religious affiliation in public primary and secondary schools", however this includes Christian, Sikh, Jewish and Muslim symbols of religious affiliation. The aim of this move is to broadly secularise public French schooling, upholding their fundamental law on the separation of church and state. However, it has been notes that this law disproportionately affects Muslim adherents, as Christians rarely wear symbols of affiliation, Sikhs in France have succeeded in arguing for the wearing of undergarments, and Jewish families have private non-government Jewish schools they have the option to attend.

2. Further, France, in 2010/2011, banned the wearing of face-covering clothing, "including masks, helmets, balaclavas, niqābs and other veils covering the face, and full body costumes and zentais (skin-tight garments covering entire body) in public places, except under specified circumstances". The cause listed was that it prevents the clear identification of an individual, potentially posing security risks. This is not specifically targeted at Muslim women, and, hijabs are permitted, as they do not cover the face.

so, while there are laws preventing the religious expression of muslim women in france, it is not directed for gender-based reasons. further, many of these bans only apply in French public schools (the abaya is banned at schools for the same reason), where arguably the separation between religion and state should be enforced. It is not a law based on gender, rather on religion, thus it is mildly misleading for it to be used in a statement showing the lack of women's rights in a country.





-- I tried to hold a neutral stance when checking these claims, but of course there is bias present everywhere. please take these with a grain of salt and check out the data for yourself.
Banning face covering is blatant racism, niqabs are a form of hijab and should be allowed, identity reasons is just a bullshit scheme from the government in order to weaken islam in the region, france hates muslims man lets be real.
 

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it probably most definitely came from a white dude bc i can keep going and going

no country EVER is 100% women supported and no country WILL EVER be 100%

in australia men get paid 28% more than women, what equal rights is that?

in france, women are forced to take their hijabs off and abaya (a long open dress) bc it set 'terror' for others, what women rights is that? freedom of choice?

a women once said to her friend 'asalam alaykum - peace be upon you' and her FEMALE neighbour heard it and that women is now imprisoned, this was in 2021, what women rights is that? freedom of speech? (france)

in the usa a women is killed every 10 minutes, EVERY 10 MINUTES!!! what women rights is that?

in poland women are allowed to get abortion ONLY if the women's health is at risk, what if she got raped and is healthy? what women rights is that?
no1 gaf
 

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why did u delete my post where i said to @alphxreturns that i agree?
When the discussion is no longer related to the main topic of the thread, and users are reminded to stay on topic, the discussion must shift back to the main topic, and no further off-topic messages must be posted. Please respect this going forward.
 

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this always happens because of sylvia
It's the internet, try not too take it too seriously - good advice to remember.

On the topic of tariffs, it will be interesting to see how markets react next week. Im thinking things will flatline - as with a lot of things Trump related, a whole lot of hype followed by a whole lot of nothing. Until the next thing comes up (as Steve Bannon said, flood the zone).
 

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Anyone who reads something like this and thinks that there's a future where America and China are just peaceful friendly trading partners needs their head examined

Last year, Chinese hackers intruded into US civilian infrastructure, including air traffic control. China first blamed criminals, but now they admit it was state-backed & pursued as a matter of war planning. Decoupling is simply inevitable, even if it is painful for investors Last year, Chinese hackers intruded into US civilian infrastructure, including air traffic control. China first blamed criminals, but now they admit it was state-backed & pursued as a matter of war planning. Decoupling is simply inevitable, even if it is painful for investors

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It's amazing how people are willing to essentially support the prospect of WW3 with Russia, and think that Trump being willing to negotiate with Russia means he's irremediably evil and must be destroyed

but then apparently, anything other than unilateral free trade policies towards china are too expensive to consider, and that Russia's most important ally including following the invasion of ukraine is a good country that doesn't deserve negative treatment

you can't make this shit up
 

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