2024 harder than 2023? (1 Viewer)

[Junaid Shaa]

Hey, after completing the 2024 Maths Advanced exam today, did you guys find it harder than last years (just want to get a good sense of what scaling will be like).

 

[currynoodlesbonanza]

Hardest hsc yet

 

[mvrcuriee]

Harder than 2021!!!! And that’s saying something ;(

 

[C_master]

oof

 

[mvrcuriee]

oof

Have fun w 4U!

 

[minjihypeboy]

hardest paper in existence no doubt. Kinda pissed off looking back at 2023 cuz that shit is a free 100

 

[RancidMathematician123]

Certainly more difficult than previous years of papers... It is always more difficult when you're actually sitting the exam yourself but I'd say the raw mark alignment should reflect the difficulty

 

[Junaid Shaa]

Certainly more difficult than previous years of papers... It is always more difficult when you're actually sitting the exam yourself but I'd say the raw mark alignment should reflect the difficulty

Yeh this is what I wanted to know becoz I did the other papers (not strictly in exam condition) so I wanted other peoples' opinions on it.

 

[GoldenMango]

When do we get raw mark alignment?

 

[natsnapshoot]

When do we get raw mark alignment?

You won't know until the results come out, but you can always estimate based on other years

 

[natsnapshoot]

For example, if we think that this is harder than 2021, which had an alignment of 74-->90, then this year may be around that mark.

 

[liamkk112]

hardest paper in existence no doubt. Kinda pissed off looking back at 2023 cuz that shit is a free 100

it feels like that every year lol

 

[currynoodlesbonanza]

What u bombaclats think average is 57s?

 

[Bob123d3gt41]

hey lads i dont know how many people will actually read this but im doing the 2025 hsc paper and was wondering how the last years paper scaled before i do it sometime this week under exam conditons... Planning to do the 2021 first, and then 2024.

 

[barnyard]

hey lads i dont know how many people will actually read this but im doing the 2025 hsc paper and was wondering how the last years paper scaled before i do it sometime this week under exam conditons... Planning to do the 2021 first, and then 2024.

from raw marks database:

raw mark	aligned hsc mark
34	65
67	85
76	90
79	92
80	92
81	92
82	93
83	93
84	94
85	94
88	95
91	96
94	98

 

[Bob123d3gt41]

from raw marks database:

raw mark	aligned hsc mark
34	65
67	85
76	90
79	92
80	92
81	92
82	93
83	93
84	94
85	94
88	95
91	96
94	98

thanks, idk if any of you got time but how does scaling work exactly is it based on cohort performance or the states performance in a subject? cus my corhort is not the brightest....

And how is it possible for raw marks to scale like this, like an 76 ->to a 90,

thats an entire 2 bands, B4-B6... like how?

 

[barnyard]

thanks, idk if any of you got time but how does scaling work exactly is it based on cohort performance or the states performance in a subject? cus my corhort is not the brightest....

And how is it possible for raw marks to scale like this, like an 76 ->to a 90,

thats an entire 2 bands, B4-B6... like how?

im not entirely sure, but raw marks to hsc marks scaling is based on both the subject and the entire state i think, whereas your cohort's performance can only really influence the other half of your hsc mark (bc half of it comes from your rank, so if you ranked second but get the top mark in the hsc, the other half comes from whoever got the second top mark in the hsc. this means you could get fucked over if you're competing with someone else the whole year and they beat you in ranking but flop the hsc and everyone else is shit)
raw mark scaling can be strangely good because it's kind of influenced by how much effort it takes to get each mark if ykwim? in extension 2 maths, in 2022 a 65% raw was still an e4 because the paper was harder that year, and that scaled up so much because each mark in mx2 is much harder to get than in, say, standard maths. for this reason, most hsc marks in standard maths are roughly 1 to 1 with your raw mark, if not worse because some marks are so easy to get.

 

[Hehehe22]

Just curious, what about the 2021 HSC made it so hard? I actually found it easier than some other papers

 

[Bob123d3gt41]

im not entirely sure, but raw marks to hsc marks scaling is based on both the subject and the entire state i think, whereas your cohort's performance can only really influence the other half of your hsc mark (bc half of it comes from your rank, so if you ranked second but get the top mark in the hsc, the other half comes from whoever got the second top mark in the hsc. this means you could get fucked over if you're competing with someone else the whole year and they beat you in ranking but flop the hsc and everyone else is shit)
raw mark scaling can be strangely good because it's kind of influenced by how much effort it takes to get each mark if ykwim? in extension 2 maths, in 2022 a 65% raw was still an e4 because the paper was harder that year, and that scaled up so much because each mark in mx2 is much harder to get than in, say, standard maths. for this reason, most hsc marks in standard maths are roughly 1 to 1 with your raw mark, if not worse because some marks are so easy to get.

ahhh okay that makes sense, yeah i was quite fascinated by how a 50 -> 70...

 

[Bob123d3gt41]

Just curious, what about the 2021 HSC made it so hard? I actually found it easier than some other papers

Im not sure, I found 2021 quite alr for the most part, I think it was that COVID knowledge gap were everyone did jack during covid so it made it seem as if year 12 content is harder, since most of year 12 stems from your ability to excel and grasp year 11 concepts.

but i got absolutely cooked in 2024 tho, was tryna do it under exam conditons and i lost my printed paper so i had to look from mylaptop and write it on my book and that pissed me off...