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But I got an HD for my property essay :( And an HD for my Mabo essay :(

I'm going to resign from this debate now, I've said all I want to say. Besides there are exams to study for :cool:

I never said God does not exist, I'm agnostic. Read the section in the argument guide I posted. (Even if I was an atheist, the burden would probably still be on you.)

No, you cannot start with the proposition that "God does exist." The burden of proof lies on you - please see the argument guide. Similarly you cannot start with the proposition that "a UFO did fly over my house last night" and try and disprove it. You start with either the proposition that a...

He means resorting to religion to answer the unknown, which is arguably weak. [Though it is quite arguable, I personally don't call it that, I prefer to think that some people just prefer comfort over truth.] Incorrect. Ethics and morality can come from the application of reason. (Not only that...

So why do you have faith in your religion and not in UFOs?

I never said I only believe things I can see. I said you need logical proof or material evidence. Think: why is it that you do not believe in UFOs? Or in your terminology, why is it that you do not have faith in UFOs?

Terror-Laws Update Thankfully the shoot-to-kill provisions have been abandoned and the detention orders look to be reviewed.

Um, humans do not cause earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tornados, volcanoes and tsunamis.

In other words, you have no response to my argument. Additionally, as I have repeatedly said, faith means belief without logical proof or material evidence. You would not believe in a UFO without evidence right? The same goes for God. Worst analogy ever. The proof of my parents having given...

If there is no evidence, then there is no reason to believe in it. Do you believe that I was abducted by a UFO last night? No. You would not believe me without evidence.

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I don't care, I'm applying :)

Perhaps (though irrelevant one a sense, considering the material results we can observe) but that does not in any way whatsoever support the existence of God.

You mean like war, oppression, abuse, discrimination, ignorance, inhibition of truth/science? Even if we do appreciate the good parts of religion (which I do), such as comfort, modern day values of love and sharing (for the most part), etc -- I don't see how that is relevant to our...

I'll explain an atheist line of thought. It might make you realise why atheists can confidently believe that there is no God. Do you believe in a flying pink elephant? No. Why not? Because, considering the exceptional claim being made, you've never, ever encountered a flying pink elephant...

You make an exception for God being infinite when the simple fact is that there is no evidence or reason to support this contention. The universe includes everything that exists. If God exists, why should there be some random (highly convenient) exception to the rule that everything that is, had...

And this is a problem how? I don't understand how you have a problem with the universe being infinite but not God being infinite. I believe you're quite mistaken there - I submit that it is a premise, just a suppressed one. The problem with your meat analogy is that we can prove what the...

[The bolded text is from my previous post. Anything in square brackets is mine.] Why is the universe not infinite? That is exactly the problem with the argument. 1. Why can't the universe be infinite? 2. Your argument begs the question. You say that everything except God has a cause. You...

What's your point? If there is no evidence available then it doesn't mean we should believe it. No evidence means no evidence. You've got no evidence that there isn't an invisible flying pink elephant named Mervin who likes singing ballads undetactable to ours ears. It would be stupid asking for...