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We had this discussion way back on page one, I agreed a phase out would be best: You still haven't explained why creating a whole new system is better than phasing out the existing system. Just because you call it "market driven" doesn't mean its any better than the current system. You sound...

You are all missing the point. The more you give people money to make something "affordable" the more it drives the price up because they have more purchasing power to bid with, so it actually makes it less affordable. That's why college tuition compared to average incomes is so much higher...

Yes. A 70 year old man could legally do all kinds of kinky shit to a 16 year old schoolgirl. Fuck I love freedom.

Whatever bro, I'm no expert on suicide methods. The point is there are lots of methods you could use that the government doesn't effectively control. All the countries mentioned have much tighter gun control than the USA, and much lower rates of gun ownership. You are the ignorant one: List...

Just take a few packets of paracetamol and wash it down with a bottle of vodka, you'll drift into a pleasant sleep, FOREVER. Or slit your wrists and then lie in a bathtub of warm water, as the blood seaps out you'll peacefully drift off into the abyss. Or just jump of a nice high cliff...

Most importantly allow gay couples to adopt.

Abolish the age of consent all together. Sexual assault cases where the young person has consented but there are questions about their capacity to consent should be tried on a case by case basis. Would it be more difficult than just having a cut off age? Sure. But we make these tough case by...

As I said, 110 is for your own room, so you could get it down lower. But even on $65 a week you could eat healthy foods and pay public transport fares. Entertainment is a luxury, not a right to be guaranteed by the government. But this 350 figure is a joke anyway. If you WORK TO SUPPORT...

Why don't you kill yourself?

Right so he was $10 off and he managed to get by. Plus if you shared a room or lived a bit further out it would be even cheaper. Thanks for confirming that YA is unecessary.

That's irrelevant. I know people who have, and I know how much things cost in Australia. loquasagacious has confirmed it can be done and has given an example of the sort of costs involved. Feel free to point out which part of this is wrong.

Well you won't be able to live in the best neighborhoods and you may have to share a room. But hey, you can't always get what you want. If students are entitled to welfare so they don't have to live in "shit neighbourhoods" should all Australians who live in these neigbourhoods also receive...

If you budget sensibly and don't go out drinking/partying all the time it's really not an issue. People expect so much in this country. Ironically, Australians on welfare are richer than most people in the developing world, and it is the welfare system which would be abused that prevents us...

I realise than on average graduates earn more than non-grads. But there are still a lot of people without degrees on high incomes who are being ripped off by the current system. I do not want to abolish arts degrees. I want to abolish Youth Allowance. I have absolutely nothing against arts...

I don't follow. Income tax is based on your total income, not your job title. Lots of people with no tertiary education also have high incomes. Oh right, it would involve a shift. Let's just ignore the criticism then. Haha, right, ten fold! What evidence do you have of this enormous dividend...

The checkout chick thing was just an example. What about people with no degree who are on high incomes who are in fact being taxed to pay for students' education. What about people doing useless degrees (i.e. arts) or doing poorly in degrees. Many people will not actually become more productive...

Why create a whole new system when you admit the old system would have to be grandfathered out anyway. Just phase out the existing system. i.e. each year the % of tuition that the government will loan you decreases. Low interest rates are exactly, 100% equivalent to a subsidy or welfare. It...

loquasagacious it sounds like you want to replace one complex bureaucratic system with another. I see where you're coming from, because university is so expensive that its hard to imagine how disadvantaged people could afford it these days without some sort of government assistance. You should...

what you talkin' bout fool?

When was the last time we were attacked by Muslims on our own soil, or indeed anywhere? I don't see how banning them would help anyway, even if it was a huge problem. The 9/11 attackers entered the US on legal visas. All terrorists have to do to circumvent a law banning muslims is say they are...